RE: How humans are "slaves", and how that leads to the existence of God.
November 3, 2015 at 10:13 am
TheRocketSurgeon
But that cluster of theories is what I concluded from the Quran, and it is what I believe in, TRS. I will not hold an answer; I'm not making things up, I already believe in this and I already found the counter for that argument a long time ago.
I believe in the Quran. and here's a verse about those fatal acts :
(Sura 4 Verse 168 ) Indeed, those who disbelieve and commit wrong [or injustice] - never will Allah forgive them, nor will He guide them to a path.
And the more you do bad acts, the more that God sends you astray :
Sura 2
( 10 ) In their hearts is disease, so Allah has increased their disease; and for them is a painful punishment because they [habitually] used to lie.
( 11 ) And when it is said to them, "Do not cause corruption on the earth," they say, "We are but reformers."
( 12 ) Unquestionably, it is they who are the corrupters, but they perceive [it] not.
Believe me. I found a sensible argument I will stop doing what I do. But when every argument thrown against me, I find for it a response in the Quran, wouldn't that makes me more of a believer ?
something like when atheists make fun of me. I immediately go to this verse :
Sura 7
( 65 ) And to the 'Aad [We sent] their brother Hud. He said, "O my people, worship Allah; you have no deity other than Him. Then will you not fear Him?"
( 66 ) Said the eminent ones who disbelieved among his people, "Indeed, we see you in foolishness, and indeed, we think you are of the liars."
Then again, what I said (and always say) is that you need to good acts in order to see the truth; isn't that the negation of "doing bad acts in order to not see the truth" ?
Redbeard The Pink
Meeting the accusation of the special pleading, I view God as a special condition (sorry ; my major is computer science).
So no, I don't think special pleading applies to me here.
When I say "zero" is a special number, is that special pleading ?
But that cluster of theories is what I concluded from the Quran, and it is what I believe in, TRS. I will not hold an answer; I'm not making things up, I already believe in this and I already found the counter for that argument a long time ago.
I believe in the Quran. and here's a verse about those fatal acts :
(Sura 4 Verse 168 ) Indeed, those who disbelieve and commit wrong [or injustice] - never will Allah forgive them, nor will He guide them to a path.
And the more you do bad acts, the more that God sends you astray :
Sura 2
( 10 ) In their hearts is disease, so Allah has increased their disease; and for them is a painful punishment because they [habitually] used to lie.
( 11 ) And when it is said to them, "Do not cause corruption on the earth," they say, "We are but reformers."
( 12 ) Unquestionably, it is they who are the corrupters, but they perceive [it] not.
Believe me. I found a sensible argument I will stop doing what I do. But when every argument thrown against me, I find for it a response in the Quran, wouldn't that makes me more of a believer ?
something like when atheists make fun of me. I immediately go to this verse :
Sura 7
( 65 ) And to the 'Aad [We sent] their brother Hud. He said, "O my people, worship Allah; you have no deity other than Him. Then will you not fear Him?"
( 66 ) Said the eminent ones who disbelieved among his people, "Indeed, we see you in foolishness, and indeed, we think you are of the liars."
Then again, what I said (and always say) is that you need to good acts in order to see the truth; isn't that the negation of "doing bad acts in order to not see the truth" ?
Redbeard The Pink
Meeting the accusation of the special pleading, I view God as a special condition (sorry ; my major is computer science).
So no, I don't think special pleading applies to me here.
When I say "zero" is a special number, is that special pleading ?
