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My thoughts on heaven
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RE: My thoughts on heaven
(November 2, 2015 at 10:49 pm)heatiosrs Wrote:
(November 2, 2015 at 10:02 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Really?

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It's quite different when you think you were ordered to die to get there, and just believing after you die you will get there.

I'm speaking of the people who hold a belief 100% true in their mind that an afterlife exists, and that it is better than their current life. They believe this in full, that death is something to look forward to, but they aren't willing to die to get there. This may come off as sick logic, and it's not a call to action for those who believe this as true. But for example, hypothetically if I knew and was 100% sure that heaven existed, and that heaven(based off the bible's desc.) is sooooo much better than my current life. I would have killed myself, I mean it seems unnecessary to stay in this life when I could eternally live in a better one right? Again, obviously people do believe this, and this is not some way of saying "well prove it". I just interpret, and think the quote means that everyone has some sense of doubt in their mind, regardless of the belief system.


Feeling you are obligated to kill yourself(which is what the people in the picture I assume believe), or service a higher power involving suicide is much different. I think it's very common to doubt what someone says, and still proceed to do it anyways simply because they are an "authority".

so you dont think that those "martyrs" are happy willing volunteers eager to get and anticipating their virgins in heaven ? the belief in martyrdom and life in heaven and the idea they are pleasing God is enough of an inspiration to  take their own lives and the lives of others . there is no government forcing people to become martyrs its religious indoctrination that does that and the belief that they will be rewarded in heaven .
Imagine there's no heaven It's easy if you try No hell below us Above us only sky Imagine all the people Living for today   FSM Grin   Imagine there's no countries It isn't hard to do Nothing to kill or die for And no religion too Imagine all the people Living life in peace You may say I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one I hope someday you will join us And the world will be as one  - John Lennon

The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also  - Mark Twain
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My thoughts on heaven - by dyresand - November 2, 2015 at 5:22 pm
RE: My thoughts on heaven - by Silver - November 2, 2015 at 5:28 pm
RE: My thoughts on heaven - by Chad32 - November 2, 2015 at 5:33 pm
RE: My thoughts on heaven - by dyresand - November 2, 2015 at 5:35 pm
RE: My thoughts on heaven - by Chad32 - November 2, 2015 at 6:30 pm
RE: My thoughts on heaven - by dyresand - November 2, 2015 at 6:53 pm
RE: My thoughts on heaven - by MysticKnight - November 2, 2015 at 5:36 pm
RE: My thoughts on heaven - by abaris - November 3, 2015 at 4:05 pm
RE: My thoughts on heaven - by Edwardo Piet - November 2, 2015 at 5:41 pm
RE: My thoughts on heaven - by MysticKnight - November 2, 2015 at 5:44 pm
RE: My thoughts on heaven - by dyresand - November 2, 2015 at 6:51 pm
RE: My thoughts on heaven - by Edwardo Piet - November 2, 2015 at 5:45 pm
RE: My thoughts on heaven - by Rhondazvous - November 2, 2015 at 5:49 pm
RE: My thoughts on heaven - by brewer - November 2, 2015 at 5:56 pm
RE: My thoughts on heaven - by Edwardo Piet - November 2, 2015 at 6:54 pm
RE: My thoughts on heaven - by Huggy Bear - November 2, 2015 at 8:42 pm
RE: My thoughts on heaven - by Heat - November 2, 2015 at 9:32 pm
RE: My thoughts on heaven - by Huggy Bear - November 2, 2015 at 10:02 pm
RE: My thoughts on heaven - by Heat - November 2, 2015 at 10:49 pm
RE: My thoughts on heaven - by jenny1972 - November 3, 2015 at 3:22 pm
RE: My thoughts on heaven - by dyresand - November 3, 2015 at 3:46 pm
RE: My thoughts on heaven - by Wyrd of Gawd - November 3, 2015 at 12:59 pm
RE: My thoughts on heaven - by Strider - November 3, 2015 at 1:19 pm
RE: My thoughts on heaven - by Wyrd of Gawd - November 3, 2015 at 5:57 pm
RE: My thoughts on heaven - by Edwardo Piet - November 3, 2015 at 4:12 pm

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