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Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth
(November 4, 2015 at 7:06 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:
(November 4, 2015 at 6:39 pm)Evie Wrote: "Atheism cannot escape absolute truth" nor can anything else OP, nor can anything else.

Atheists tend to act as if there is objective praise, objective value, perpetual identity, and that there are levels and stages. Yet at the same time many of them want to say all of it is subjective (not all) but to believe in any of these things (to have a subjective view of them) you have to believe in it at least to some degree that they are objective in some way some form.  And free-will. Let's not forget our faith in free-will.  Yet if naturalism is true,  we have no way to affirm any of these being true instead of simply delusional experiences and magical thinking we developed. In fact, I would argue further, if we can be certain of naturalism, then we can be certain of these things being delusions and magical thinking. 

Yet not only do humans know these things are not magical thinking or delusions,  they live according to it as a foundation to their lives.

If it's nothing more than an illusion, how would you know?

We act as if these things are objective - that's what a healthy mind does. But the fact that we act "as if" these things were objective is not evidence in and of itself that they indeed are objective. You mistake the appearance for the reality.
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Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by Delicate - October 3, 2015 at 4:50 pm
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by vorlon13 - October 3, 2015 at 4:54 pm
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by vorlon13 - October 20, 2015 at 10:03 am
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by Spooky - October 3, 2015 at 4:55 pm
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by Longhorn - October 3, 2015 at 5:48 pm
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by Jenny A - October 3, 2015 at 5:50 pm
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by drfuzzy - October 3, 2015 at 5:55 pm
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by abaris - October 3, 2015 at 6:01 pm
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by KevinM1 - October 3, 2015 at 7:14 pm
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by KevinM1 - October 6, 2015 at 10:45 am
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by Alex K - October 3, 2015 at 8:06 pm
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by Exian - October 3, 2015 at 8:44 pm
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by wiploc - October 3, 2015 at 9:12 pm
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by robvalue - October 3, 2015 at 9:29 pm
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by Delicate - October 5, 2015 at 12:45 am
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by Silver - October 5, 2015 at 1:05 am
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by Darkstar - October 5, 2015 at 1:57 am
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by Losty - October 5, 2015 at 1:09 am
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by robvalue - October 5, 2015 at 3:04 am
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by Losty - October 5, 2015 at 3:52 am
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by Losty - October 5, 2015 at 2:10 pm
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by Angrboda - October 5, 2015 at 11:33 am
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by Losty - October 5, 2015 at 1:28 pm
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by Delicate - October 6, 2015 at 4:44 am
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by Delicate - October 6, 2015 at 11:35 pm
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by Losty - October 7, 2015 at 12:07 am
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by Ravenshire - October 10, 2015 at 1:25 am
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by Losty - October 5, 2015 at 1:37 pm
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by Delicate - October 7, 2015 at 12:20 am
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by Losty - October 7, 2015 at 12:30 am
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by Delicate - October 7, 2015 at 12:36 am
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by Losty - October 7, 2015 at 12:37 am
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by Losty - October 7, 2015 at 3:10 am
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by brewer - October 7, 2015 at 7:48 am
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by robvalue - October 7, 2015 at 4:23 am
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by robvalue - October 7, 2015 at 6:13 am
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by Reforged - October 7, 2015 at 6:38 am
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by Losty - October 7, 2015 at 11:33 pm
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by Delicate - October 18, 2015 at 8:24 pm
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by Delicate - October 23, 2015 at 11:13 pm
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by Delicate - October 24, 2015 at 2:10 pm
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by LostLocke - November 4, 2015 at 6:09 pm
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by Silver - October 10, 2015 at 12:01 am
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by dyresand - October 10, 2015 at 1:17 am
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by Silver - October 10, 2015 at 1:22 am
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by Alex K - October 19, 2015 at 9:07 am
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by Ben Davis - October 20, 2015 at 6:34 am
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by ignoramus - October 20, 2015 at 7:17 am
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by robvalue - October 20, 2015 at 7:43 am
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by LostLocke - October 20, 2015 at 8:21 am
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by Mothonis - October 24, 2015 at 12:11 am
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by dyresand - October 24, 2015 at 1:36 am
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by ignoramus - October 24, 2015 at 2:30 am
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by robvalue - October 24, 2015 at 2:40 am
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by Silver - October 24, 2015 at 2:49 am
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by ignoramus - October 24, 2015 at 3:07 am
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by brewer - October 24, 2015 at 9:49 am
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by robvalue - October 24, 2015 at 4:57 pm
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RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by abaris - November 4, 2015 at 6:43 pm
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by Ludwig - November 4, 2015 at 2:14 pm
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RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by robvalue - November 4, 2015 at 5:27 pm
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by KevinM1 - November 4, 2015 at 5:44 pm
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by Angrboda - November 4, 2015 at 6:03 pm
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by abaris - November 4, 2015 at 6:35 pm
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by Spooky - November 4, 2015 at 6:37 pm
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by Crossless1 - November 4, 2015 at 6:43 pm
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by abaris - November 4, 2015 at 7:11 pm
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by abaris - November 4, 2015 at 7:15 pm
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by Angrboda - November 4, 2015 at 7:54 pm
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by Silver - November 4, 2015 at 8:01 pm
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by Angrboda - November 4, 2015 at 8:05 pm
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by Angrboda - November 4, 2015 at 8:41 pm
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by Mudhammam - November 5, 2015 at 2:11 am
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by Silver - November 4, 2015 at 7:20 pm
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by abaris - November 4, 2015 at 7:31 pm
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by Angrboda - November 4, 2015 at 9:23 pm
RE: Why atheism cannot escape absolute truth - by Reforged - November 5, 2015 at 2:35 am
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