(November 7, 2015 at 6:38 pm)blahman212 Wrote: I think it's down to hope. If you go to someone in a desperate situation and say that they can be saved by following a specific system, I can imagine why it might seem appealing to them. They haven't had someone else tell them the facts, that it's incredibly unlikely that a God exists, and to be honest I would speculate that they wouldn't care, since they think it'll make their lives better. I definitely don't agree with it, but that's my impression of the situation.
Unless they're gay people living in Uganda, where American missionaries convinced them to pass a law making homosexuality a death penalty offense. (Hey, to be fair, it is biblical.) Only after an international outcry did they back off to make it "just" life in prison.
Or unless your tribe was Christianized and the next tribe was Islamized... and now you have a new reason for genocidal wars to start.
These are the legacies of our exported missionaries.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
