Whoops, I made a mistake. It was magic by God.
Just really shitty magic. It was meant to be objective, but we all got different values. And he forgot some people entirely.
Language is tricky. "Morality" as a scientific phenomenon is (I would say) just the evolved trait of giving a piss about other members of your group. But on an individual level, how each animal goes about achieving that, and to what level it is set/learned in them, is a different matter. So using the word in both senses at once is confusing. I find it best to make it clear whether we're talking scientific explanations or individual analysis. Conflating the two is where most of the confusion comes from I think.
I'm fairly sure my dad is a psycopathic, and mum is pretty messed up too. My morality is really different from both of theirs, almost unrecognisably so. It seems like I have some innate values which developed in spite of my parenting rather than because of it. But it's all very complex I'm sure. Exactly how much is genetic and how much is learned I couldn't say.
Just really shitty magic. It was meant to be objective, but we all got different values. And he forgot some people entirely.
Language is tricky. "Morality" as a scientific phenomenon is (I would say) just the evolved trait of giving a piss about other members of your group. But on an individual level, how each animal goes about achieving that, and to what level it is set/learned in them, is a different matter. So using the word in both senses at once is confusing. I find it best to make it clear whether we're talking scientific explanations or individual analysis. Conflating the two is where most of the confusion comes from I think.
I'm fairly sure my dad is a psycopathic, and mum is pretty messed up too. My morality is really different from both of theirs, almost unrecognisably so. It seems like I have some innate values which developed in spite of my parenting rather than because of it. But it's all very complex I'm sure. Exactly how much is genetic and how much is learned I couldn't say.
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