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Atheism and Hope
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Atheism and Hope
I am not a Christian, I am an agnostic.

I believe in the evolutionary process. I believe that the process of natural selection allows for those organisms which are not fit to survive to slowly die out to allow room for organisms with more evolutionarily advantageous traits. If this process is a reality it applies to humans and thus to myself. Neil Tyson once said that no being dies in vain; even ...if weak beings die they do so to ensure that weak traits are not passed down to the next generation. If I am weak, why should I live? If I have evolutionarily disadvantageous traits, why should I continue to survive? How would it not be my duty to my species to die and not have children; thus not passing on my degenerate DNA? How is the suffering worthwhile? What is it that is going to be so great which will make my life worth living?

I have watched some videos on Youtube about atheists and hope. One man says he has hope that less people will be religious (okay...) another says he likes chess and vegetable soup. Another says he likes to spend time with friends. Lets imagine that you aren;t very interested in changing the minds of the world, that you aren't enthralled with chess and vegetable soup and you don't have friends. If Hedonism is all our life has to offer; what hope is there for the suffering?

After attempting my life, I begged doctors for euthanasia, but they obviously denied it to me. Why? Why did they deny this to me? Sitting where I am, doing what I'm doing, locked in this hell of meaninglessness, why would they not grant me peace?

I'm not challenging atheism, I want to know if I'm missing something. Why can't I tap out? Why is society against me saying that I'm done and I've had enough, and yet looks down on me for what I've become? You can't leave, but what you are is terrible.

Why can't I die if there is no meaning and no hope?
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Atheism and Hope - by prmptuscerus - November 13, 2015 at 12:49 am
RE: Atheism and Hope - by Jackalope - November 13, 2015 at 12:53 am
RE: Atheism and Hope - by SteelCurtain - November 13, 2015 at 12:59 am
RE: Atheism and Hope - by MysticKnight - November 13, 2015 at 1:10 am
RE: Atheism and Hope - by rexbeccarox - November 13, 2015 at 1:23 am
RE: Atheism and Hope - by Silver - November 13, 2015 at 1:32 am
RE: Atheism and Hope - by rexbeccarox - November 13, 2015 at 1:35 am
RE: Atheism and Hope - by ignoramus - November 13, 2015 at 4:10 am
RE: Atheism and Hope - by robvalue - November 13, 2015 at 4:29 am
RE: Atheism and Hope - by Ashground - November 13, 2015 at 4:48 am
RE: Atheism and Hope - by Reforged - November 13, 2015 at 5:26 am
RE: Atheism and Hope - by Edwardo Piet - November 14, 2015 at 2:15 am
RE: Atheism and Hope - by TheRocketSurgeon - November 13, 2015 at 10:09 am
RE: Atheism and Hope - by Faith No More - November 13, 2015 at 11:07 am
RE: Atheism and Hope - by Whateverist - November 13, 2015 at 12:30 pm
RE: Atheism and Hope - by TheRocketSurgeon - November 13, 2015 at 12:34 pm
RE: Atheism and Hope - by Minimalist - November 13, 2015 at 12:36 pm
RE: Atheism and Hope - by Ludwig - November 13, 2015 at 1:49 pm
RE: Atheism and Hope - by Edwardo Piet - November 13, 2015 at 1:54 pm
RE: Atheism and Hope - by drfuzzy - November 13, 2015 at 2:06 pm
RE: Atheism and Hope - by TheRocketSurgeon - November 13, 2015 at 4:00 pm
RE: Atheism and Hope - by drfuzzy - November 13, 2015 at 5:17 pm
RE: Atheism and Hope - by The Grand Nudger - November 13, 2015 at 2:08 pm
RE: Atheism and Hope - by Edwardo Piet - November 13, 2015 at 2:14 pm
RE: Atheism and Hope - by Edwardo Piet - November 14, 2015 at 1:10 am
RE: Atheism and Hope - by robvalue - November 14, 2015 at 1:27 am
RE: Atheism and Hope - by Edwardo Piet - November 14, 2015 at 1:33 am
RE: Atheism and Hope - by Silver - November 14, 2015 at 1:35 am
RE: Atheism and Hope - by Edwardo Piet - November 14, 2015 at 1:38 am
RE: Atheism and Hope - by Silver - November 14, 2015 at 1:45 am
RE: Atheism and Hope - by Alex K - November 14, 2015 at 1:48 am
RE: Atheism and Hope - by Ludwig - November 14, 2015 at 11:52 am
RE: Atheism and Hope - by Edwardo Piet - November 14, 2015 at 11:54 am
RE: Atheism and Hope - by prmptuscerus - November 14, 2015 at 4:00 pm
RE: Atheism and Hope - by robvalue - November 14, 2015 at 4:06 pm
RE: Atheism and Hope - by The Grand Nudger - November 14, 2015 at 4:10 pm
RE: Atheism and Hope - by prmptuscerus - November 15, 2015 at 2:53 am
RE: Atheism and Hope - by Faith No More - November 15, 2015 at 10:25 am
RE: Atheism and Hope - by Edwardo Piet - November 14, 2015 at 4:21 pm
RE: Atheism and Hope - by Whateverist - November 15, 2015 at 7:47 am
RE: Atheism and Hope - by prmptuscerus - November 16, 2015 at 1:04 am
RE: Atheism and Hope - by Edwardo Piet - November 16, 2015 at 5:21 am
RE: Atheism and Hope - by ignoramus - November 16, 2015 at 5:02 am
RE: Atheism and Hope - by robvalue - November 16, 2015 at 5:11 am
RE: Atheism and Hope - by The Grand Nudger - November 16, 2015 at 5:15 am
RE: Atheism and Hope - by robvalue - November 16, 2015 at 5:28 am
RE: Atheism and Hope - by Edwardo Piet - November 16, 2015 at 5:35 am
RE: Atheism and Hope - by robvalue - November 16, 2015 at 5:36 am
RE: Atheism and Hope - by The Grand Nudger - November 16, 2015 at 5:40 am
RE: Atheism and Hope - by robvalue - November 16, 2015 at 5:45 am
RE: Atheism and Hope - by The Grand Nudger - November 16, 2015 at 5:53 am
RE: Atheism and Hope - by Alex K - November 16, 2015 at 7:07 am
RE: Atheism and Hope - by robvalue - November 16, 2015 at 5:59 am
RE: Atheism and Hope - by The Grand Nudger - November 16, 2015 at 6:01 am
RE: Atheism and Hope - by robvalue - November 16, 2015 at 6:02 am
RE: Atheism and Hope - by Edwardo Piet - November 16, 2015 at 6:07 am
RE: Atheism and Hope - by The Grand Nudger - November 16, 2015 at 7:30 am
RE: Atheism and Hope - by Edwardo Piet - November 16, 2015 at 8:23 am
RE: Atheism and Hope - by The Grand Nudger - November 16, 2015 at 8:54 am
RE: Atheism and Hope - by Edwardo Piet - November 16, 2015 at 8:57 am
RE: Atheism and Hope - by prmptuscerus - November 17, 2015 at 3:37 am
RE: Atheism and Hope - by Edwardo Piet - November 17, 2015 at 12:15 pm
RE: Atheism and Hope - by robvalue - November 17, 2015 at 5:23 am

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