(November 13, 2015 at 2:06 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: I have been suicidal - quite a lot in my life. I've been there. I'm actually quite amazed that you are here, searching for responses. When I have been at my worst points, I really didn't care what anyone had to say to me. I still have my moments. They aren't fun.
But in retrospect, even though life can still be really nasty sometimes, I'm glad that I didn't succeed. I'm glad that I didn't hurt my brother and my cousins. (The only family I have left.) Because life has had some really lovely moments too. I can name many times when I have thought "I would have missed this. I would have never gotten to experience this, if I had succeeded." And while I'm very introverted by nature, I have learned that I am healthier when I have human interaction. Get out, do something. I heartily recommend something that helps those less fortunate than yourself.
I don't think suicide is a sin - - although the pain it can cause your family and friends could be horrific. However, if you are not in physical pain, then you have hope of finding your way out of the mental/emotional pain. I think there are times when suicide can be justified. I think there are many more times when it is a waste of potential: potential to do good for others, to create something of value, to appreciate beauty. We are more than just human breeders, you know.
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A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
