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Ayn Rand -Faith vs Reason
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RE: Ayn Rand -Faith vs Reason
Quote:As far as I know, Ayn Rand was a turncoat against her native Russia


Irrelevant to her ideas. Nor,in my opinion may rejecting Stalinism be conflated with treachery.

I reject Rand on her own merits,finding her objectivism shallow and bourgeoise at best,naive at worst. IE Her notion of the nature of human beings has more to do with romanticism than reality


Quote:Rand developed an integrated philosophical system called "Objectivism." Its essence is "the concept of man as a heroic being, with his own happiness as the moral purpose of his life, with productive achievement as his noblest activity, and reason as his only absolute."[94]



MY perception of human beings: Self interested animals with delusions of grandeur


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She had a soft target; Phil Donohue is an ignoramus, and parroted the same old cliched arguments.


Raynd made a couple of logical errors;The first was arguing the absence of evidence* allows the conclusion that there is no god,it does not. It allows the conclusion that there is no evidence.

Raynd said twice that one is never asked to prove negative.That is untrue,and happens in science all the time.The concept is called 'falsification'. In asserting 'there is no God" Raynd makes a positive claim and attracts the burden of proof. IE She has the obligation to falsify the existence of Gods.



*argument from ignorance. As Carl Sagan famously said "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence"

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PS It's 8.18 am Xmas morning,I'm always up at dawn.My family are all interstate this year.I'm having a late lunch with friends this afternoon.Bored right now and the fucking shops are closed,not even a newspaper.No weekend newspaper pisses me off;it has reviews and my TV guide.

Some examples of an Aussie Xmas:


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Ayn Rand -Faith vs Reason - by theVOID - December 23, 2010 at 9:18 am
RE: Ayn Rand -Faith vs Reason - by GANIMEDE - December 23, 2010 at 5:11 pm
RE: Ayn Rand -Faith vs Reason - by Shell B - December 23, 2010 at 5:18 pm
RE: Ayn Rand -Faith vs Reason - by Anomalocaris - December 23, 2010 at 5:35 pm
RE: Ayn Rand -Faith vs Reason - by GANIMEDE - December 23, 2010 at 6:10 pm
RE: Ayn Rand -Faith vs Reason - by robsenelstun - April 20, 2012 at 3:16 pm
RE: Ayn Rand -Faith vs Reason - by theVOID - December 23, 2010 at 9:58 pm
RE: Ayn Rand -Faith vs Reason - by Anomalocaris - December 24, 2010 at 3:23 am
RE: Ayn Rand -Faith vs Reason - by thesummerqueen - December 24, 2010 at 3:33 am
RE: Ayn Rand -Faith vs Reason - by The Skeptic - January 9, 2011 at 2:18 pm
RE: Ayn Rand -Faith vs Reason - by thesummerqueen - January 9, 2011 at 2:27 pm
RE: Ayn Rand -Faith vs Reason - by padraic - December 24, 2010 at 5:27 pm
RE: Ayn Rand -Faith vs Reason - by theVOID - December 25, 2010 at 6:40 am
RE: Ayn Rand -Faith vs Reason - by padraic - December 25, 2010 at 5:57 pm
RE: Ayn Rand -Faith vs Reason - by yuriythebest - December 25, 2010 at 7:45 pm
RE: Ayn Rand -Faith vs Reason - by FadingW - January 8, 2011 at 3:12 pm
RE: Ayn Rand -Faith vs Reason - by Edwardo Piet - January 9, 2011 at 4:05 pm
RE: Ayn Rand -Faith vs Reason - by thesummerqueen - January 9, 2011 at 4:10 pm
RE: Ayn Rand -Faith vs Reason - by Edwardo Piet - January 9, 2011 at 4:15 pm
RE: Ayn Rand -Faith vs Reason - by thesummerqueen - January 9, 2011 at 5:45 pm
RE: Ayn Rand -Faith vs Reason - by Edwardo Piet - January 10, 2011 at 1:21 pm
RE: Ayn Rand -Faith vs Reason - by thesummerqueen - January 10, 2011 at 2:39 pm
RE: Ayn Rand -Faith vs Reason - by Edwardo Piet - January 11, 2011 at 9:41 am
RE: Ayn Rand -Faith vs Reason - by Autumnlicious - January 11, 2011 at 3:33 pm
RE: Ayn Rand -Faith vs Reason - by thesummerqueen - January 11, 2011 at 3:35 pm
RE: Ayn Rand -Faith vs Reason - by Edwardo Piet - January 12, 2011 at 7:59 am
RE: Ayn Rand -Faith vs Reason - by Paul the Human - April 20, 2012 at 3:24 pm
RE: Ayn Rand -Faith vs Reason - by mediamogul - April 20, 2012 at 9:39 pm
RE: Ayn Rand -Faith vs Reason - by genkaus - April 21, 2012 at 7:05 am
RE: Ayn Rand -Faith vs Reason - by mediamogul - April 21, 2012 at 8:33 am
RE: Ayn Rand -Faith vs Reason - by genkaus - April 21, 2012 at 9:10 am
RE: Ayn Rand -Faith vs Reason - by mediamogul - April 21, 2012 at 12:25 pm
RE: Ayn Rand -Faith vs Reason - by genkaus - April 21, 2012 at 2:14 pm
RE: Ayn Rand -Faith vs Reason - by The Grand Nudger - April 21, 2012 at 3:23 pm
RE: Ayn Rand -Faith vs Reason - by 5thHorseman - April 21, 2012 at 3:28 pm
RE: Ayn Rand -Faith vs Reason - by genkaus - April 21, 2012 at 6:31 pm

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