(November 16, 2015 at 2:38 pm)jenny1972 Wrote:(November 16, 2015 at 2:15 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: We've been here before, haven't we, Jenny girl? I wasn't the only one to tell you here that your assertions that god speaks to you individually will be challenged, and people will demand proof, again and again, every time you make that assertion. Without proof, we simply aren't going to believe you. Now maybe Rhythm and others will do the same thing as I did - agree to disagree, you seem pleasant and harmless. But every time you make your claim, just expect to be asked for proof. And when you say "it can't be proved", expect us to believe that you are mildly delusional.
i dont expect anyone to believe me and am not trying to convince anyone since there isnt any proof that i can give and i absolutely believe nothing short of having a spiritual experience/science will convince anyone so discussing it at all is a waste of time a completely useless argument to even start but i was genuinely just curious about what deists believe and theists who just believe in God already think about different things.
I'm not attacking. Just sayin' - bring it up, people here will push for that discussion. And actually, one of my immigrant ancestors was a Deist - wouldn't let his kids anywhere near a church. I would love to have a time machine to ask him what he believed, and why.
He actually said "my creed and my bible do not agree". A further answer would almost certainly be this: I see wonders in creation that I can't explain, so there must have been a creator. However, the Jesus story makes no sense to me, and the Jewish Yahweh is not a god I can worship. I have seen no further proof of a deity, therefore, a creator must have finished creation, and then had no other dealings with humans.
Some modern deists describe us like a science experiment: set all the parts in motion, then don't interfere. Let the subjects do what they will do, if you interfere, the whole experiment is tainted, and you must start over.
"The family that prays together...is brainwashing their children."- Albert Einstein