RE: what do non/anti-religion Deists and Theists believe ?
November 17, 2015 at 11:04 am
(This post was last modified: November 17, 2015 at 11:09 am by jenny1972.)
(November 16, 2015 at 3:06 pm)drfuzzy Wrote:(November 16, 2015 at 2:38 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: i dont expect anyone to believe me and am not trying to convince anyone since there isnt any proof that i can give and i absolutely believe nothing short of having a spiritual experience/science will convince anyone so discussing it at all is a waste of time a completely useless argument to even start but i was genuinely just curious about what deists believe and theists who just believe in God already think about different things.
I'm not attacking. Just sayin' - bring it up, people here will push for that discussion. And actually, one of my immigrant ancestors was a Deist - wouldn't let his kids anywhere near a church. I would love to have a time machine to ask him what he believed, and why.
He actually said "my creed and my bible do not agree". A further answer would almost certainly be this: I see wonders in creation that I can't explain, so there must have been a creator. However, the Jesus story makes no sense to me, and the Jewish Yahweh is not a god I can worship. I have seen no further proof of a deity, therefore, a creator must have finished creation, and then had no other dealings with humans.
Some modern deists describe us like a science experiment: set all the parts in motion, then don't interfere. Let the subjects do what they will do, if you interfere, the whole experiment is tainted, and you must start over.
where did he immigrate from was he a christian before he became a deist what age did he become a deist do you know ? thats interesting ive heard that too about God as a scientist do they believe in life after death? or is that something theyre unsure about ? no i didnt think you were attacking i just think its better to avoid debates that are pointless but your right ive ended up talking about it despite my belief that its completely pointless to debate lol a few times so your right . i didnt know how many deists were on this website i think thats the best way to learn about anything is talk to ppl i think everyone is interesting
Imagine there's no heaven It's easy if you try No hell below us Above us only sky Imagine all the people Living for today 
Imagine there's no countries It isn't hard to do Nothing to kill or die for And no religion too Imagine all the people Living life in peace You may say I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one I hope someday you will join us And the world will be as one - John Lennon
The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also - Mark Twain
Imagine there's no countries It isn't hard to do Nothing to kill or die for And no religion too Imagine all the people Living life in peace You may say I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one I hope someday you will join us And the world will be as one - John LennonThe easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also - Mark Twain
