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islam is dying out
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RE: islam is dying out
(November 23, 2015 at 2:54 pm)mr_j936 Wrote: On topic, and let us not get too optimistic. But I think islam is growing weaker. A few years ago I was in one of our top secret atheist meetings in the middle east and I was told that there is a wave of atheism that is expanding in the middle east. But I did not think too much about it and I shrugged it off as my atheist friends being too optimistic. But over the recent years I started hearing the news from muslim sheikhs(religious people) on TV panicking.

Given the expansion of the internet and information, young people especially are naturally running into questions that sheikhs fail to answer (because they require brains) I have recently seen a speech for an islamic figure on TV warning about the great danger islam faces due to terrorism. He said because of these obscene and violent acts done by terrorist muslims on TV and on the internet which were not used to be shown graphically in previous centuries(it's what he said, leading me to believe that he does not find the acts themselves as bad but the fact that they are being shown as is as the bad thing) 
1-Peaceful muslims are starting to doubt and leave their religion as they do not want to be associated with such acts.
2- People who may have before been prone to being converted to Islam and join it are now extremely unlikely to join, if someone is doubting his faith and is considering a change in religion, they are unlikely to come to islam because of the stigma attached to it
3- Non muslims are starting to despise and alienate muslims because of these acts

This same person wanted Salman Rushdi and the cartoonists dead in 2007. Muslims started toning down their hate speeches because it's not cute anymore, the world will not accomodate anymore. 

Also, you have to consider the accuracy or inaccuracy of the statistics that tell you how many muslims there are in the world. In islam, if you change your faith they kill you. It is in the quraan stated in a really plain and simple sentence that does not require interpretation "he who changes his faith kill him" literally, no argument. So muslims who convert usually keep it a secret. I've met atheist women who still wear the veil because of fear. And muslims like to brag about their number by simply adding up the number of occupants of a given muslim country, they do not do opinion polls, islam does not believe in democracy or opinions after all.

I personally blame the governments of Europe and partly of the US for giving too much space for muslims on the expense of freedom of speech, and even giving them their own courts in some countries like the UK, the UK really went way too far, making it racist to criticize muslims, as if pedophilia, murder and female abuse make a race. The freedoms these countries have(or should I say had) came after centuries of struggle, and they just gave them away.
The British politicians were bribed to give preferential treatment to the muslims.  They sold out their country for money.  England went around the world screwing over everyone it encountered and now it's on the short end of the stick at home.  They had a good run while it lasted but it's over now.

If Jesus is real he will save the day unless he has converted to Islam.  As it says in 2 Corinthians 10:5-6 (CEV) = "...We capture people’s thoughts and make them obey Christ. 6 And when you completely obey him, we will punish anyone who refuses to obey."
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islam is dying out - by dyresand - August 26, 2015 at 10:18 pm
RE: islam is dying out - by The Valkyrie - August 26, 2015 at 10:23 pm
RE: islam is dying out - by Minimalist - August 26, 2015 at 11:18 pm
RE: islam is dying out - by brewer - August 27, 2015 at 9:37 am
RE: islam is dying out - by downbeatplumb - August 27, 2015 at 1:21 pm
RE: islam is dying out - by brewer - August 27, 2015 at 1:44 pm
RE: islam is dying out - by Chad32 - August 27, 2015 at 11:00 am
RE: islam is dying out - by Divinity - August 27, 2015 at 12:01 am
RE: islam is dying out - by Napoléon - August 27, 2015 at 5:01 am
RE: islam is dying out - by Divinity - August 27, 2015 at 10:42 am
RE: islam is dying out - by Napoléon - August 27, 2015 at 11:11 am
RE: islam is dying out - by Divinity - August 27, 2015 at 11:12 am
RE: islam is dying out - by Napoléon - August 27, 2015 at 11:45 am
RE: islam is dying out - by Pat Mustard - November 4, 2015 at 5:38 pm
RE: islam is dying out - by Faith No More - August 27, 2015 at 12:24 am
RE: islam is dying out - by robvalue - August 27, 2015 at 1:32 am
RE: islam is dying out - by TruthWorthy - August 27, 2015 at 4:58 am
RE: islam is dying out - by Mr Greene - August 27, 2015 at 10:30 am
RE: islam is dying out - by Divinity - August 27, 2015 at 11:53 am
RE: islam is dying out - by Brakeman - August 27, 2015 at 12:29 pm
RE: islam is dying out - by jenny1972 - October 28, 2015 at 5:37 pm
RE: islam is dying out - by Minimalist - August 27, 2015 at 12:02 pm
RE: islam is dying out - by Divinity - August 27, 2015 at 12:16 pm
RE: islam is dying out - by Spooky - August 27, 2015 at 12:31 pm
RE: islam is dying out - by downbeatplumb - August 27, 2015 at 6:05 pm
RE: islam is dying out - by ReptilianPeon - August 28, 2015 at 5:21 am
RE: islam is dying out - by Kurdistannn - August 28, 2015 at 8:40 am
RE: islam is dying out - by robvalue - August 28, 2015 at 9:32 am
RE: islam is dying out - by Regina - August 29, 2015 at 9:01 pm
RE: islam is dying out - by TruthWorthy - September 26, 2015 at 7:01 am
RE: islam is dying out - by Blondie - October 18, 2015 at 5:05 am
RE: islam is dying out - by downbeatplumb - October 18, 2015 at 7:34 am
RE: islam is dying out - by Regina - October 19, 2015 at 5:04 pm
RE: islam is dying out - by WinterHold - October 22, 2015 at 4:26 am
RE: islam is dying out - by Regina - October 22, 2015 at 5:55 pm
RE: islam is dying out - by Dystopia - October 29, 2015 at 2:11 pm
RE: islam is dying out - by WinterHold - October 24, 2015 at 3:15 am
RE: islam is dying out - by The Grand Nudger - October 29, 2015 at 7:07 am
RE: islam is dying out - by WinterHold - October 29, 2015 at 8:32 am
RE: islam is dying out - by WinterHold - October 29, 2015 at 8:34 am
RE: islam is dying out - by The Grand Nudger - October 29, 2015 at 10:53 am
RE: islam is dying out - by WinterHold - October 29, 2015 at 12:40 pm
islam is dying out - by miaharun - October 29, 2015 at 12:01 pm
RE: islam is dying out - by The Grand Nudger - October 29, 2015 at 12:14 pm
RE: islam is dying out - by TrueChristian - October 29, 2015 at 12:41 pm
RE: islam is dying out - by robvalue - October 29, 2015 at 12:55 pm
RE: islam is dying out - by The Grand Nudger - October 29, 2015 at 12:49 pm
RE: islam is dying out - by WinterHold - October 29, 2015 at 1:15 pm
RE: islam is dying out - by The Grand Nudger - October 29, 2015 at 1:19 pm
RE: islam is dying out - by The Grand Nudger - October 29, 2015 at 2:19 pm
RE: islam is dying out - by miaharun - October 29, 2015 at 11:40 pm
RE: islam is dying out - by The Grand Nudger - October 30, 2015 at 4:44 pm
RE: islam is dying out - by MysticKnight - October 30, 2015 at 5:56 pm
RE: islam is dying out - by The Grand Nudger - October 30, 2015 at 6:01 pm
RE: islam is dying out - by Wyrd of Gawd - November 21, 2015 at 10:51 pm
RE: islam is dying out - by mr_j936 - November 23, 2015 at 2:54 pm
RE: islam is dying out - by Wyrd of Gawd - November 24, 2015 at 1:55 am
RE: islam is dying out - by Pat Mustard - November 27, 2015 at 5:21 pm
RE: islam is dying out - by Wyrd of Gawd - November 28, 2015 at 4:23 am
RE: islam is dying out - by SofaKingHigh - November 30, 2015 at 9:55 am
RE: islam is dying out - by Wyrd of Gawd - December 1, 2015 at 12:54 pm
RE: islam is dying out - by SofaKingHigh - December 2, 2015 at 9:30 am
RE: islam is dying out - by Wyrd of Gawd - December 4, 2015 at 8:12 pm
RE: islam is dying out - by SofaKingHigh - December 8, 2015 at 7:01 am
RE: islam is dying out - by Pat Mustard - December 4, 2015 at 4:21 pm
RE: islam is dying out - by Mr Greene - November 30, 2015 at 9:47 am
RE: islam is dying out - by Pizza - December 1, 2015 at 9:37 pm
RE: islam is dying out - by Wyrd of Gawd - December 2, 2015 at 4:01 am
RE: islam is dying out - by Whateverist - November 30, 2015 at 12:49 pm
RE: islam is dying out - by Gawdzilla - November 30, 2015 at 1:01 pm
RE: islam is dying out - by Mr Greene - December 1, 2015 at 3:51 pm
RE: islam is dying out - by Wyrd of Gawd - December 1, 2015 at 9:03 pm
RE: islam is dying out - by Pizza - December 1, 2015 at 9:40 pm
RE: islam is dying out - by Wyrd of Gawd - December 2, 2015 at 3:56 am
RE: islam is dying out - by Mr Greene - December 2, 2015 at 9:46 am
RE: islam is dying out - by Pat Mustard - December 5, 2015 at 3:18 pm
RE: islam is dying out - by SofaKingHigh - December 2, 2015 at 11:15 am
RE: islam is dying out - by dyresand - December 5, 2015 at 10:17 am
RE: islam is dying out - by Edwardo Piet - December 8, 2015 at 5:41 pm
RE: islam is dying out - by dyresand - December 10, 2015 at 12:40 am
RE: islam is dying out - by CapnAwesome - December 10, 2015 at 12:54 am
RE: islam is dying out - by CapnAwesome - December 10, 2015 at 12:52 am
RE: islam is dying out - by Edwardo Piet - December 10, 2015 at 1:24 am

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