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Animal rights, veganism and PETA
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Animal rights, veganism and PETA
So I came across this writeup today amid the comments section of the Friendly Atheist:

Quote:So when we left off, PETA was so ferociously anti-cruelty that they had stopped paying any attention to what that actually means. Here's a few basic points that I started to touch on last time.

1. If you want to keep animals from suffering, you first have to define "suffering," and that has not been done. You have to distinguish whether we're talking about mental anguish, sadness, stress, fear, and the like, or whether it's physical pain that's more the issue. Or maybe it's environmental or incidental impact; we can all agree that a tree doesn't feel pain (I hope), but cutting it down affects other creatures and maybe that's the problem. These are important definitions that need to be laid out, and no one's doing it.

(more in article)

REF: http://unreasonablydangerousonionrings.b...holic.html


One thing I want to know is, what are your stances on eating animals and why?
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Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by Autumnlicious - January 2, 2011 at 6:29 pm
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by padraic - January 2, 2011 at 6:49 pm
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by Zen Badger - January 3, 2011 at 1:28 am
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by Minimalist - January 3, 2011 at 2:15 am
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by Zen Badger - January 3, 2011 at 4:12 am
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by padraic - January 5, 2011 at 8:43 pm
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by thesummerqueen - January 6, 2011 at 1:32 am
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by KichigaiNeko - January 3, 2011 at 4:31 am
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by downbeatplumb - January 3, 2011 at 5:44 am
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by KichigaiNeko - January 3, 2011 at 6:04 am
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by KichigaiNeko - January 3, 2011 at 8:52 am
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by Justtristo - January 3, 2011 at 8:22 am
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by Skipper - January 3, 2011 at 9:41 am
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by Violet - January 3, 2011 at 2:07 pm
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by thesummerqueen - January 3, 2011 at 2:21 pm
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by Autumnlicious - January 3, 2011 at 2:55 pm
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by Minimalist - January 3, 2011 at 3:41 pm
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by thesummerqueen - January 3, 2011 at 3:04 pm
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by Edwardo Piet - January 4, 2011 at 10:44 am
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by Meatball - January 5, 2011 at 1:53 pm
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by Edwardo Piet - January 5, 2011 at 2:26 pm
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by Meatball - January 5, 2011 at 2:59 pm
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by Edwardo Piet - January 6, 2011 at 1:05 pm
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by thesummerqueen - January 5, 2011 at 3:01 pm
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by Autumnlicious - January 5, 2011 at 4:26 pm
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by thesummerqueen - January 5, 2011 at 4:29 pm
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by Edwardo Piet - January 5, 2011 at 4:30 pm
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by thesummerqueen - January 5, 2011 at 4:33 pm
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by Violet - January 5, 2011 at 7:24 pm
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by Shell B - January 5, 2011 at 7:30 pm
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by thesummerqueen - January 5, 2011 at 7:36 pm
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by Jaysyn - January 6, 2011 at 12:26 pm
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by Skipper - January 6, 2011 at 2:01 pm
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by Jaysyn - January 15, 2011 at 1:57 pm
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by The Omnissiunt One - January 16, 2011 at 1:56 pm
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by Edwardo Piet - January 6, 2011 at 1:09 pm
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by Diamond - January 6, 2011 at 5:11 pm
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by HeyItsZeus - January 6, 2011 at 10:07 pm
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by theVOID - January 6, 2011 at 10:35 pm
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by HeyItsZeus - January 6, 2011 at 11:25 pm
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by Skipper - January 7, 2011 at 9:20 am
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by The Omnissiunt One - January 8, 2011 at 12:23 pm
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by theVOID - January 6, 2011 at 11:40 pm
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by Edwardo Piet - January 7, 2011 at 9:28 am
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by Skipper - January 7, 2011 at 9:30 am
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by Edwardo Piet - January 7, 2011 at 9:37 am
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by Meatball - January 7, 2011 at 11:28 am
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by theVOID - January 8, 2011 at 1:12 am
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by Minimalist - January 7, 2011 at 11:39 am
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by Edwardo Piet - January 7, 2011 at 12:51 pm
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by Anomalocaris - January 9, 2011 at 5:28 am
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by Edwardo Piet - January 9, 2011 at 7:29 am
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by padraic - January 10, 2011 at 4:11 am
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by Meatball - January 7, 2011 at 2:22 pm
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by Minimalist - January 7, 2011 at 2:40 pm
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by Shell B - January 7, 2011 at 3:37 pm
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by Minimalist - January 8, 2011 at 2:09 am
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by Shell B - January 8, 2011 at 10:51 am
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by Edwardo Piet - January 8, 2011 at 12:33 pm
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by The Omnissiunt One - January 8, 2011 at 12:46 pm
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by Edwardo Piet - January 8, 2011 at 1:02 pm
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by Minimalist - January 8, 2011 at 1:57 pm
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by padraic - January 8, 2011 at 7:04 pm
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by Autumnlicious - January 8, 2011 at 5:25 pm
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by The Omnissiunt One - January 9, 2011 at 12:02 pm
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by Minimalist - January 8, 2011 at 7:57 pm
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by Rayaan - January 9, 2011 at 4:27 am
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by Autumnlicious - January 10, 2011 at 3:04 am
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by Edwardo Piet - January 10, 2011 at 11:12 am
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by Anomalocaris - January 11, 2011 at 1:44 pm
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by Edwardo Piet - January 12, 2011 at 6:14 am
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by The Omnissiunt One - January 11, 2011 at 1:36 pm
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by padraic - January 11, 2011 at 9:14 pm
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by Ubermensch - January 14, 2011 at 8:01 am
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by Dotard - January 17, 2011 at 8:12 am
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by Violet - January 21, 2011 at 3:45 am
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by thesummerqueen - January 21, 2011 at 9:54 am
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by parrotpirate - January 24, 2011 at 12:38 pm
RE: Animal rights, veganism and PETA - by Autumnlicious - January 24, 2011 at 3:30 pm

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