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A question about hell
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RE: A question about hell
(November 24, 2015 at 6:05 pm)Drich Wrote:
(November 24, 2015 at 4:26 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Many people claim to be able to speak directly to their god of choice, but none have been able to show the guy.

Well for something to exist, it has to be a person, place, thing, or idea. Places can be spooky. Things can be dangerous. Ideas can be off the wall at times. None of those things can want anything.

Childbirth. Work. Mortality. Death. Thorns. Predation. All manner of things your god lets happen because anyone dares to not be completely dependent on him.

The Taliban and ISIS are religious groups worhiping the same Abrahamic god you do. Nazis were religious. North Korea is a dictatorship, much like your god's views of how things work. I'm not actually familiar with Hirohito. The worst places in the world tend to be places of extreme religious beliefs, or places where one person or a small group of people hold all the power. Something not unlike the kind of system your god believes in. Where he holds all the power, and everyone who takes one step out of line dies. if we think people like Kim Jong Un are so horrible, is it any wonder why people would think someone like Yahweh is horrible too? The irony is that the better countries in the world tend to be those who don't have dictators or religious fundamentalists running the show.

I would never inflict an eternity of suffering for finite crimes. That would be evil.

If an abused slave tries to run away, the problem isn't that he's a bad disobedient slave. The problem is that he was enslaved at all.

Maybe God is not something small enough to be shown, but something you have to go to see. (Not to mention no other religion offers access to its 'god' unless you claim to be a prophet or emissary. Not even OT Judaism, You are just pretending to know what your talking about)

So youre saying a person can never want anything..

So is it your assumption that those who do follow God don't have to deal with those things?

ISIS and the Taliban do not worship the God of Abraham. They claim to worship the God of Abraham. That is the difference between being a fighter pilot and just telling everyone you are. just because you play ace's high on line does not mean you are a fighter pilot, nor does it give you the right to claim to be one. Hirihito was the Japanese Emperor who decided to bomb pearl harbor and also decided not to fight WWII in accordance with the Genevia convention. The point I was making by citing two religions who men use for evil and two non religious goverments where men used evil to claim power, is to show a commonality, that evil exists with or with the pretense of religion. The commonality is evil hearted men.

If someone killed an immortal being, how is that a finite crime? Now what if 'someone' killed a whole planet's worth of Immortal beings? Now what if someone kill every Immortal being from the time a planet hosted the first couple to the very last immortal being on said planet to ever be created? How could one who intentionally/with malice killed a whole Species of immortals ever atone for his crime? in your **Cough/Joke** "Morality" would you execute said guilty Immortal or would you give him life in prison without parole?

Who said anything about a slave running away? I said slave do not have free will, is that correct??? in the liberties given a slave, is a slave still not responsible for the choices he makes if he takes his liberties too far???
For instance, say a slave owner offered a slave a wife and told him he could have marry any girl that would have him, but instead, he rapes some young girl and forces her to be his wife. Do you think that slave is not responsible for his actions? Do you think he will not be held accountable for his actions even if he does not have 'free will?"

Since you can't be bothered to put in a few quote tags I'd thought I'd do the same.

Because Dirch when it comes down to it let's say if god existed the notion of justice is thrown out the window.
You can go and pillage rape steal etc. then all you have to do is pray to god and accept jesus and be saved from your transgressions. 
With that way thinking it is dangerous yet your book says do no to this do not do that and why is that a country that is mostly christians and christians are a heavy majority in jail. While get this atheists and mostly secular non god believing countries have less crime and overall are doing much more better. One would wonder the idea of hell should scare anyone to getting on the right path but why is it that non believers and atheists make better christians than actual christians who follow the bible.
Atheism is a non-prophet organization join today. 


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