A question about hell

[Chad32]

Ah, no you can't.. (you failed hard)

Did I do it wrong? Oh no. Let me try again.

And if He could go on living quite happily without you for eternity?
What if he doesn't need you, what if your not in the drivers seat here. What if the situation is that of rescue of those who only wish to be rescued?

Going back to my Syrian example, not all Syrians want to relocate/be rescued by the west. So then why would the western countries taking Syrian immigrants go into Syria and beg those who remained to come with them? Would western society collaps if those hardcore Syrians did not relocate? What if the western countries that ISIS was just days away Is the western countries obligated to relocate the general Syrian population anyway?
Hell, no!
My attitude is if they want to live and die by what's coming, then I say let them have their cake! I can't imagine God's attitude to those who want a puppet show from God/God bending over backwards for them Given what has already been done, to be much different.

Then I'm fine with that. I don't need him to live happily, and he doesn't need me to live happily, so we can live our lives separately. Except according to the bible he seems to really want everyone to dedicate their lives to him, and if we don't he gets pissed off and wants to punish us. He's very self centered. Not that I've never been self centered, but I've also never killed someone for not doing what I told them to do. Despite the fact that I KNOW what's best for everyone. Because I'm me. If everything in the world went the way I wanted them to, it would be perfect.

Rescue from what? Hell? You have a guy that creates a system where you either do what he wants, or he'll make sure you have a bad time. And you're judged specifically on how much you worship him, instead of your actions. Hence people like Jeffrey Dahmer getting into heaven, and people like Gandhi going to hell. Down here we call that blackmail.

Are the westerners asking the Syrians to move also the ones threatening to kill them if they don't?

Again sport, would they/you if you experienced the same thing day in day out?

Are you intentionally missing the point or are you hiding from it?

I'm not purposefully avoiding some kind of evidence from god. I just don't know why an all knowing all present force needs workarounds to initiate a relationship with people. He wants something from me, and he's going to try to get it in the most complicate way possible.

but again sport.. the 'proof' is not dependant on anything the guy telling the good news has. The proof is in following the directions the guy gives you. That is how all directions are vetted. It's in the following to see if they take you where they claim to go...
In this situation, their is no cost nor is their risk. All one must do in his own personal private life is simply humble themselves before God and A/S/K as outlined in Luke 11.
The only real risk is you find out that God is real and has been patiently waiting.

The directions the guy gives, which is second hand knowledge at best, and can be read in enough different ways that different people can fervently believe it while also disagreeing with other people on what exactly it says. It's faulty. I was already humble as a child. I believed everythign I was told, and read through the bible a number of times. Nothing happened, so I left. When I want a relationship with someone, I seek them out. I don't write notes for other people to send. I don't wait and hope they notice me. I expect the same from everyone else.

define constructive

I would say keeping a genocidal murder out of reach from those in whom he has a taste for is very constructive for those who other wise would be affected by this being.

Constructive would be doing something that helps a community. Like if another species was created, the convict could build houses for them. Clean up the area. Do something but rot away in a cell while someone tortures them. Or being dropped into a hole full of lava.

It is ABSOLUTLY NOT! We are to win people's souls, and work with in the frame of whatever government or existence they currently live. Islam demands they take over all world goverments and or kill all who get in the way/oppose them So that the whole world is ever facet of life worship their god in accordance with their holy book.

If Christian's were on the same 'mission' as muslims do you think gay marriage would even be a topic of conversation? Absolutly not! The have a death sentence for homosexuals no questions asked. But, rather in America where Christianity supposedly rules we have gay marriage the best any of us can do is work with in the frame work of government to over turn that decision. but if we can't then we are to not rebel against our goverments because they do not work by our bibles.

Some people would disagree with that. some people would say if you're not willing to kill or die for god to destroy the godless than you're not a true christian. and they can find verses in the bible to back them up. They took control over europe at one time. They're trying to turn America into a theocracy. They are christian extremists, and they are willing to bomb buildings and pass laws according to the bible, and so forth. They used to kill homosexuals, and some still call for it. They're not as strong as they used to be, but that doesn't mean they didn't do those kinds of things when they were powerful. The Salem with trials is a good example. how many witches do you really think lived in Salem?

Christianity doesn't rule to the extent that they can do the kinds of things they used to do, and we're fighting to keep it that way. Yet we still have theocrats running for office that aren't being kicked out as soon as they say we should implement a flat tax just because the bible says so.

Whoopie Goldberg is that you? or has your insanity already infected the weak minded?
Show me Christian doctrine that demands attacks on people anywhere for any reason.
So if the bible does not authorize attacks in the name of Christ, then is it Christians in any way shape or form whoopee is really afraid of? (Let me put it another way just incase you are not whoopee.. (Meaning you are one of the weak minded) What if a serial killer started killing people in the 'name of President Obama.' Now mind you, that Obama speaks out against this psyco, and has absolutely nothing to do with Him, and even has put things in place to keep people from doing such things.. Yet here we have one or two isolated people who decide they want to attribute their evil to Obama.. Now does anyone really blame Obama? Does anyone have to fear Obama Himself?

Yet weak minded sheeple want to attribute the acts of crazy people to a doctrine that firmly stands against all the evil that has been done in its name.

You don't think there's any christian doctrine anywhere that encourages violence? Even if we leave out the old testament, and only use the last third of the book, you think there's absolutely no basis for things like the crudades, inquisition, and such? That despite the historical violence that christians have committed against themselves and theirs somehow they got their ideas without any scriptural basis for it? That's rather naive. Not that I can't relate. When I was a kid they just focused on the nice fluffy parts too. Jesus is your pal, and if you're a good boy you get to go to heaven and have all the cake you want. Yet when christians were at their greatest, there were wars and violence and genocides.

How weak does Jesus have to be to want people to be nice to each other, yet is helpless to stand by as people drag his teaching through the mud in his name?