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Suicide
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RE: Suicide
(November 29, 2015 at 4:08 pm)"bennyboy  : Wrote: This arbitrary asymmetry also shows an unwillingness to engage with those other people I mentioned: murderers, rapists, pedophiles, etc. because I guarantee if you talked to ANY of them, they'd tell you they hated what they did but couldn't control themselves.

emphasis mine. 

Please produce some confirmed documentation that shows this to be true. Statistics perhaps? 

Premeditation in whatever form is done with intent and malice to actually cause harm to another. It is thought out ahead of time, regardless of the AMOUNT of time that thought required. 

Under United States Federal Law, "murder is the unlawful killing of a human being with malice aforethought."  18 U.S.C. subsection 1111 (a) 2010. "A person is guilty of first degree murder if it was "perpetrated by poison, lying in wait, or any other kind of willful, deliberate, malicious, and premeditated killing" or while committing or attempting to commit "any arson, escape, murder, kidnapping, treason, espionage, sabotage, aggrravated sexual abuse...child abuse, burglary, or robbery" or "as part of a pattern or practice of assault or torture against a child or children..." ld. "Any other murder is murder in the second degree." ld. In contrast, "manslaughter is the unlawful killing of a human being without malice" and includes both voluntary manslaughter (killing "upon a sudden quarrel or heat of passion") and involuntary manslaughter (killing while committing a non-felonious offense or killing "without due caution and circumspection"). . .

I pulled this directly from the pdf file below. It came from the January 2012 Volume 60 Number 1, United States Departent of Justice Executive Office for United States Attorneys, Washington DC, 20530.

Google usab6001.pdf. I am on my tablet and it won't let me copy and paste the website's link to the article. 

Suicide, as it has been explained to you time and time again, happens because the person suffering, feels so much torment and pain that they are looking to end that torment and pain by ending their life. Read some real suicide notes sometime and I'm sure you'll finally get it.
Disclaimer: I am only responsible for what I say, not what you choose to understand. 
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Suicide - by ApeNotKillApe - November 24, 2015 at 3:46 am
RE: Suicide - by Thumpalumpacus - November 24, 2015 at 4:04 am
RE: Suicide - by Alex K - November 24, 2015 at 4:22 am
RE: Suicide - by Thumpalumpacus - November 24, 2015 at 5:19 am
RE: Suicide - by Redbeard The Pink - November 24, 2015 at 4:06 am
RE: Suicide - by robvalue - November 24, 2015 at 4:17 am
RE: Suicide - by ApeNotKillApe - November 24, 2015 at 5:47 am
RE: Suicide - by robvalue - November 24, 2015 at 5:49 am
RE: Suicide - by ApeNotKillApe - November 24, 2015 at 6:35 am
RE: Suicide - by robvalue - November 24, 2015 at 7:42 am
RE: Suicide - by bennyboy - November 24, 2015 at 9:04 am
RE: Suicide - by Redbeard The Pink - November 24, 2015 at 6:46 am
RE: Suicide - by ApeNotKillApe - November 24, 2015 at 9:44 am
RE: Suicide - by bennyboy - November 24, 2015 at 11:21 am
RE: Suicide - by Thumpalumpacus - November 24, 2015 at 12:58 pm
RE: Suicide - by Redbeard The Pink - November 24, 2015 at 1:02 pm
RE: Suicide - by dyresand - November 24, 2015 at 11:31 am
RE: Suicide - by brewer - November 24, 2015 at 1:52 pm
RE: Suicide - by LastPoet - November 24, 2015 at 2:02 pm
RE: Suicide - by bennyboy - November 24, 2015 at 2:57 pm
RE: Suicide - by ApeNotKillApe - November 24, 2015 at 5:50 pm
RE: Suicide - by bennyboy - November 24, 2015 at 7:39 pm
RE: Suicide - by Reforged - November 25, 2015 at 7:08 am
RE: Suicide - by Redbeard The Pink - November 25, 2015 at 7:15 am
RE: Suicide - by Reforged - November 25, 2015 at 7:18 am
RE: Suicide - by Wyrd of Gawd - November 26, 2015 at 12:52 am
RE: Suicide - by Catholic_Lady - November 24, 2015 at 7:48 pm
RE: Suicide - by Redbeard The Pink - November 24, 2015 at 8:37 pm
RE: Suicide - by Thumpalumpacus - November 25, 2015 at 3:36 am
RE: Suicide - by Catholic_Lady - November 27, 2015 at 4:43 pm
RE: Suicide - by Thumpalumpacus - November 27, 2015 at 5:12 pm
RE: Suicide - by Catholic_Lady - November 27, 2015 at 5:58 pm
RE: Suicide - by bennyboy - November 27, 2015 at 9:14 pm
RE: Suicide - by Thumpalumpacus - November 27, 2015 at 10:23 pm
RE: Suicide - by Edwardo Piet - December 9, 2015 at 9:55 am
RE: Suicide - by Joods - December 9, 2015 at 10:58 am
RE: Suicide - by Edwardo Piet - December 9, 2015 at 11:31 am
RE: Suicide - by Minimalist - December 6, 2015 at 12:25 pm
RE: Suicide - by dyresand - November 25, 2015 at 12:15 am
RE: Suicide - by robvalue - November 25, 2015 at 3:45 am
RE: Suicide - by ignoramus - November 25, 2015 at 6:54 am
RE: Suicide - by ApeNotKillApe - November 25, 2015 at 7:00 pm
RE: Suicide - by bennyboy - November 25, 2015 at 11:12 pm
RE: Suicide - by robvalue - November 26, 2015 at 4:16 am
RE: Suicide - by Catholic_Lady - November 27, 2015 at 11:40 pm
RE: Suicide - by Joods - November 28, 2015 at 12:13 am
RE: Suicide - by bennyboy - November 28, 2015 at 7:18 am
RE: Suicide - by robvalue - November 28, 2015 at 2:36 am
RE: Suicide - by Thumpalumpacus - November 28, 2015 at 4:44 am
RE: Suicide - by Joods - November 28, 2015 at 9:29 am
RE: Suicide - by Longhorn - November 28, 2015 at 9:45 am
RE: Suicide - by Thumpalumpacus - November 28, 2015 at 1:02 pm
RE: Suicide - by Joods - November 29, 2015 at 7:46 am
RE: Suicide - by Thumpalumpacus - November 29, 2015 at 8:41 am
RE: Suicide - by Faith No More - November 29, 2015 at 3:30 pm
RE: Suicide - by bennyboy - November 29, 2015 at 1:44 pm
RE: Suicide - by Faith No More - November 29, 2015 at 3:35 pm
RE: Suicide - by bennyboy - November 29, 2015 at 4:08 pm
RE: Suicide - by Faith No More - November 29, 2015 at 4:23 pm
RE: Suicide - by bennyboy - November 29, 2015 at 5:03 pm
RE: Suicide - by Joods - November 29, 2015 at 5:35 pm
RE: Suicide - by bennyboy - November 29, 2015 at 11:00 pm
RE: Suicide - by Sappho - November 28, 2015 at 1:17 pm
RE: Suicide - by robvalue - November 29, 2015 at 7:53 am
RE: Suicide - by robvalue - November 29, 2015 at 9:21 am
RE: Suicide - by bennyboy - November 29, 2015 at 1:47 pm
RE: Suicide - by Joods - November 29, 2015 at 1:48 pm
RE: Suicide - by bennyboy - November 29, 2015 at 1:52 pm
RE: Suicide - by Joods - November 29, 2015 at 4:40 pm
RE: Suicide - by bennyboy - November 29, 2015 at 4:49 pm
RE: Suicide - by Joods - November 29, 2015 at 5:42 pm
RE: Suicide - by Joods - November 29, 2015 at 11:03 pm
RE: Suicide - by bennyboy - November 29, 2015 at 11:13 pm
RE: Suicide - by Faith No More - November 29, 2015 at 11:23 pm
RE: Suicide - by bennyboy - November 30, 2015 at 1:40 am
RE: Suicide - by DespondentFishdeathMasochismo - November 30, 2015 at 4:42 pm
RE: Suicide - by DespondentFishdeathMasochismo - December 6, 2015 at 9:26 am
RE: Suicide - by Wyrd of Gawd - December 9, 2015 at 5:05 am
RE: Suicide - by Dystopia - December 9, 2015 at 10:04 am
RE: Suicide - by Grandizer - December 9, 2015 at 10:59 am
RE: Suicide - by Joods - December 9, 2015 at 11:39 am
RE: Suicide - by Edwardo Piet - December 9, 2015 at 11:57 am
RE: Suicide - by Joods - December 9, 2015 at 12:04 pm
RE: Suicide - by Edwardo Piet - December 9, 2015 at 3:14 pm
RE: Suicide - by Grandizer - December 9, 2015 at 12:00 pm

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