Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: July 22, 2025, 3:50 am

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
A question about hell
#99
RE: A question about hell
(December 1, 2015 at 10:16 am)Chad32 Wrote: I have already experienced what's on god's table.
Really???
Because everything you have described so far has been about what's on man's religious table. If you knew of God then why have we yet discussed anything of God?
Quote: I have a father that demands utmost respect, despite treating me horribly, and utmost obedience just because it came out of his mouth. There is no questioning. there is no calling him out when he acts like an asshole. Step too far out of line, and he beats me. This is the childhood I grew up with. If I didn't like one authoritarian father that I can't disagree with without being beaten, what makes you think I'd like another?
...So you think have sampled this behavior from God's table? Because nothing described in the bible even closely resembles your father. Matter of fact the bible goes into great detail to show us that God through Christ is the exact opposite of what you described.

Quote:This is my problem. I hate my dad, and the way god acts a lot of the time reminds me of my dad. My dad can be nice when everything is going exactly how he wants it to go, and quickly becomes violent when it doesn't. He knows I don't hear too well, and I have some form of ADD, so I'm not all that attentive, but he doesn't care. He'll punish me for messing up anyway. Though honestly he doesn't do it as often nowadays because I've moved out and I can call the police if he comes at me with a belt or something. Now that I have some semblance of power, he restrains himself more.
Or maybe he is beginning to see that the harder he pushes, the further you go, now that you are not living with him.
At some point you will come to a cross road, where you will live completely independent of him. Despite what you think now. Given enough time even the most hard hearted fathers will soften, and at some point you will have a choice. to either forgive him for all that he has done to you, or you can try and 'punish' him by keeping him at arms length or completely cut out of your life.

Know it or not God has put you in the position He is in. In that what do you do with a person who has sinned against you/hurt you greatly. Say for instance your Dad has spent his whole life crapping all over you. (till now) As a result you cut him out or to a minimum in your life. Next thing you know 20 years goes by and he starts to reflect what an B-hole he was and wants to be apart of your life again, he wants to be a proper grandfather..

Now which version would be acceptable to you, to let him back into your life?
1)He feels he is entitled, and demands you bend over backwards to put your kids into his life, and wants you to go out of your way to reassure him that you really want his approval?
-or-
2) He comes to you and appologizes for all the crap he has done and wants you to forgive him and he swears to try and live a life with your kids he should have lived with you.

You like God have been sinned against. and you like God have a choice to make on whether to forgive or not. God chose to forgive any and all who go to him with hat in hand and simply acknowledge all the bad crap the did and acknoweledge the sacrifice made.. which as a beaten son I know that is all i want my dad to do. "acknowledge the stripes I endured/how he sinned against me." In turn God wants the same. Respect us/Him enough to acknoweledge the crap we've pulled, the pain it cause and the measure/cost of forgiveness.

Nothing else is required. So I honestly don't know what it is your talking about in the above quote.

Quote:This is why Yahweh is so worried about Humans gaining power in the story of Eden and the Tower of Babel.
no, in eden God knew what sin would bring... You can't look at the world as it is and say it is a better place than if god walked among us and provided everything we needed. This is the cost of sin.
Babel was an effort to slow our progress down, to have us mature before we were exposed to things/technology before we were ready to be responsible for them.

Quote: This is why rulers like to keep the peasantry on a tight leash. As soon as you have someone who can fight back, you're less inclined to slap them around. Power corrupts, but power has to bend to equal power lest it lose that power. On a bigger scale you could look at the US and Soviet union during the Cold War.
Lets say you have a 15 year old and he wants a 1967 Mustang 429 cobra jet for the car he learns how to drive on.
Do you think that is a good idea? even if you had the money?
When you say no, it is because your power has corrupted you?
Is it because he can not fight back?
is it because you want to keep him on a tight leash?
or is it because your age and wisdom simply knows better than to give your snot nose kid who has no driving experience a car that will probably be his coffin?/you simply know that despite what he wants you know it is not in his best overall intrest.

Quote:You think I don't know the kind of person your god is. I do. I lived with him, and I don't like him.
again if you do, then why haven't you been able to describe Him as of your last thread? The only thing you have ever pointed to has been religion.
Reply



Messages In This Thread
A question about hell - by Lemonvariable72 - November 23, 2015 at 7:58 pm
RE: A question about hell - by Silver - November 23, 2015 at 8:00 pm
RE: A question about hell - by The Valkyrie - November 23, 2015 at 8:10 pm
RE: A question about hell - by vorlon13 - November 23, 2015 at 8:14 pm
RE: A question about hell - by Minimalist - November 23, 2015 at 9:09 pm
RE: A question about hell - by Chad32 - November 23, 2015 at 8:20 pm
RE: A question about hell - by dyresand - November 24, 2015 at 1:41 am
RE: A question about hell - by ApeNotKillApe - November 23, 2015 at 8:51 pm
RE: A question about hell - by vorlon13 - November 24, 2015 at 2:30 am
RE: A question about hell - by Wyrd of Gawd - November 24, 2015 at 2:51 am
RE: A question about hell - by dyresand - November 24, 2015 at 1:39 am
RE: A question about hell - by Drich - November 24, 2015 at 8:54 am
RE: A question about hell - by ApeNotKillApe - November 24, 2015 at 9:55 am
RE: A question about hell - by Drich - November 24, 2015 at 12:56 pm
RE: A question about hell - by ApeNotKillApe - November 24, 2015 at 4:01 pm
RE: A question about hell - by dyresand - November 24, 2015 at 4:15 pm
RE: A question about hell - by Drich - November 25, 2015 at 9:53 am
RE: A question about hell - by Drich - November 24, 2015 at 6:15 pm
RE: A question about hell - by ApeNotKillApe - November 24, 2015 at 6:44 pm
RE: A question about hell - by Lemonvariable72 - November 24, 2015 at 9:55 pm
RE: A question about hell - by Drich - November 25, 2015 at 10:01 am
RE: A question about hell - by Cecelia - November 24, 2015 at 10:21 pm
RE: A question about hell - by Drich - November 25, 2015 at 10:19 am
RE: A question about hell - by Chad32 - November 24, 2015 at 11:25 am
RE: A question about hell - by Drich - November 24, 2015 at 12:54 pm
RE: A question about hell - by Chad32 - November 24, 2015 at 1:30 pm
RE: A question about hell - by Drich - November 24, 2015 at 3:47 pm
RE: A question about hell - by Chad32 - November 24, 2015 at 4:26 pm
RE: A question about hell - by Drich - November 24, 2015 at 6:05 pm
RE: A question about hell - by dyresand - November 24, 2015 at 6:12 pm
RE: A question about hell - by Drich - November 24, 2015 at 6:28 pm
RE: A question about hell - by dyresand - November 27, 2015 at 12:43 pm
RE: A question about hell - by Drich - November 27, 2015 at 2:35 pm
RE: A question about hell - by dyresand - November 27, 2015 at 2:39 pm
RE: A question about hell - by Drich - November 25, 2015 at 9:59 am
RE: A question about hell - by dyresand - November 25, 2015 at 1:12 pm
RE: A question about hell - by Drich - November 27, 2015 at 11:51 am
RE: A question about hell - by Drich - November 28, 2015 at 1:56 am
RE: A question about hell - by Chad32 - November 24, 2015 at 6:39 pm
RE: A question about hell - by Drich - November 25, 2015 at 10:17 am
RE: A question about hell - by Chad32 - November 25, 2015 at 10:28 am
RE: A question about hell - by Drich - November 25, 2015 at 11:22 am
RE: A question about hell - by SofaKingHigh - November 25, 2015 at 11:31 am
RE: A question about hell - by Drich - November 25, 2015 at 2:59 pm
RE: A question about hell - by SofaKingHigh - November 26, 2015 at 7:11 am
RE: A question about hell - by Chad32 - November 25, 2015 at 11:48 am
RE: A question about hell - by Drich - November 27, 2015 at 11:46 am
RE: A question about hell - by Chad32 - November 27, 2015 at 1:40 pm
RE: A question about hell - by Drich - November 27, 2015 at 3:17 pm
RE: A question about hell - by Chad32 - November 27, 2015 at 4:41 pm
RE: A question about hell - by Drich - November 30, 2015 at 3:14 pm
RE: A question about hell - by Chad32 - November 30, 2015 at 4:02 pm
RE: A question about hell - by Drich - November 30, 2015 at 5:25 pm
RE: A question about hell - by Chad32 - November 30, 2015 at 10:43 pm
RE: A question about hell - by Drich - December 1, 2015 at 9:48 am
RE: A question about hell - by Nay_Sayer - November 27, 2015 at 3:47 pm
RE: A question about hell - by Drich - November 30, 2015 at 12:54 pm
RE: A question about hell - by Nay_Sayer - November 30, 2015 at 4:13 pm
RE: A question about hell - by dyresand - November 30, 2015 at 4:20 pm
RE: A question about hell - by SofaKingHigh - November 24, 2015 at 11:29 am
RE: A question about hell - by brewer - November 24, 2015 at 6:30 pm
RE: A question about hell - by Wyrd of Gawd - November 25, 2015 at 10:15 pm
RE: A question about hell - by ApeNotKillApe - November 25, 2015 at 10:51 pm
RE: A question about hell - by dyresand - November 26, 2015 at 9:00 pm
RE: A question about hell - by ApeNotKillApe - November 26, 2015 at 9:13 pm
RE: A question about hell - by dyresand - November 26, 2015 at 9:59 pm
RE: A question about hell - by Drich - November 27, 2015 at 11:59 am
RE: A question about hell - by dyresand - November 27, 2015 at 12:37 pm
RE: A question about hell - by Drich - November 27, 2015 at 2:26 pm
RE: A question about hell - by Wyrd of Gawd - November 27, 2015 at 9:41 pm
RE: A question about hell - by Drich - November 27, 2015 at 11:58 am
RE: A question about hell - by vorlon13 - November 25, 2015 at 11:09 pm
RE: A question about hell - by ApeNotKillApe - November 25, 2015 at 11:25 pm
RE: A question about hell - by vorlon13 - November 26, 2015 at 11:07 am
RE: A question about hell - by ApeNotKillApe - November 26, 2015 at 4:27 pm
RE: A question about hell - by Wyrd of Gawd - November 26, 2015 at 1:48 am
RE: A question about hell - by dyresand - November 26, 2015 at 9:02 pm
RE: A question about hell - by robvalue - November 26, 2015 at 9:06 pm
RE: A question about hell - by Chad32 - November 27, 2015 at 2:36 pm
RE: A question about hell - by ApeNotKillApe - November 27, 2015 at 2:38 pm
RE: A question about hell - by Chad32 - November 27, 2015 at 2:39 pm
RE: A question about hell - by ApeNotKillApe - November 27, 2015 at 2:46 pm
RE: A question about hell - by Chad32 - November 27, 2015 at 2:50 pm
RE: A question about hell - by ApeNotKillApe - November 27, 2015 at 3:08 pm
RE: A question about hell - by dyresand - November 27, 2015 at 3:14 pm
RE: A question about hell - by Chad32 - November 28, 2015 at 9:20 am
RE: A question about hell - by Drich - November 30, 2015 at 3:16 pm
RE: A question about hell - by Ravenshire - November 28, 2015 at 6:05 pm
RE: A question about hell - by Chad32 - November 28, 2015 at 6:38 pm
RE: A question about hell - by dyresand - November 29, 2015 at 2:17 am
RE: A question about hell - by Catholic_Lady - November 30, 2015 at 3:19 pm
RE: A question about hell - by dyresand - November 30, 2015 at 3:30 pm
RE: A question about hell - by Nay_Sayer - November 30, 2015 at 4:15 pm
RE: A question about hell - by Catholic_Lady - November 30, 2015 at 4:19 pm
RE: A question about hell - by Catholic_Lady - November 30, 2015 at 3:32 pm
RE: A question about hell - by dyresand - November 30, 2015 at 4:03 pm
RE: A question about hell - by Chad32 - December 1, 2015 at 10:16 am
RE: A question about hell - by Drich - December 1, 2015 at 1:43 pm
RE: A question about hell - by Redbeard The Pink - December 1, 2015 at 10:29 am
RE: A question about hell - by Chad32 - December 1, 2015 at 2:04 pm
RE: A question about hell - by Drich - December 1, 2015 at 2:20 pm
RE: A question about hell - by Chad32 - December 1, 2015 at 2:52 pm
RE: A question about hell - by Drich - December 1, 2015 at 4:39 pm

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Hello and question about hell Kyro 80 9392 August 11, 2018 at 2:08 pm
Last Post: KevinM1
  What the Hell,is Hell anyway? Vern Cliff 31 8736 October 15, 2015 at 1:17 pm
Last Post: brewer
  Hell Houses (AKA: Hallelujah Houses, Heaven or Hell, Christian Haunted House, etc.) Strider 25 8502 December 3, 2014 at 3:07 pm
Last Post: abaris
Question I'm going to hell for sure, so I might as well question everything? Erinome 28 11407 March 22, 2012 at 2:56 pm
Last Post: Shell B



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)