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so christians get this
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RE: so christians get this
(December 2, 2015 at 10:12 am)dyresand Wrote:
(December 2, 2015 at 9:49 am)Drich Wrote: The law is still in effect. All of it. If you could be bothered to even read the summery review of the romans study I posted I point out that in chapter 3 Paul shows us it is the Law that shows us we are in sin and in need of redemption. It is by the law that all unrepentant will be judged. However it is also the law that affords us atonement and salvation. How can he say this? because 1/3 to 1/2 of the law is dedicated to ways of atoning for sin. When Chirst said he came to fulfill the Law he was talking about not only extending the do's and don'ts of the law to include thought, but to provide permanent atonement.

What was Christ's final word on the cross?
"It is Finished." Meaning the time that the law could not change was at an end.

Yeah no again The old testament is still in affect it doesn't  matter what Paul wrote he is a self appointed apostle.

Yes it is, That is EXACTLY WHAT PAUL SAYS!

It is the Old Testament that judges all of you 'good people.'

The Old Testament is also what saves the rest of us through Christ.

Again because the law is more than a list of do's and do not's. 1/3 to 1/2 of the law is about atonement. Atonement is the only way to have sins forgiven. When Christ died and proclaimed "It Is Finished" from the cross He was proclaiming the fact that the Law was now made complete. Again, not that it has gone anywhere, but made complete/Changed. In that no longer was the blood of animals needed to be used to atone for sin. Which means 'righteousness' For The Believer Only, was not obtained through following the law. (now ask why if you don't know)

Even so the law Remains. It remains as a benchmark used to judge the sinful unrepentant world.
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so christians get this - by dyresand - December 2, 2015 at 12:17 am
RE: so christians get this - by Minimalist - December 2, 2015 at 12:55 am
RE: so christians get this - by dyresand - December 2, 2015 at 12:57 am
RE: so christians get this - by Drich - December 2, 2015 at 9:49 am
RE: so christians get this - by dyresand - December 2, 2015 at 10:12 am
RE: so christians get this - by Drich - December 2, 2015 at 10:34 am
RE: so christians get this - by dyresand - December 2, 2015 at 10:39 am
RE: so christians get this - by Cyberman - December 2, 2015 at 2:03 pm
RE: so christians get this - by Drich - December 2, 2015 at 3:22 pm
RE: so christians get this - by dyresand - December 2, 2015 at 4:31 pm
RE: so christians get this - by Drich - December 3, 2015 at 10:34 am
RE: so christians get this - by drfuzzy - December 2, 2015 at 8:28 pm
RE: so christians get this - by dyresand - December 2, 2015 at 9:09 pm
RE: so christians get this - by drfuzzy - December 3, 2015 at 2:55 pm
RE: so christians get this - by dyresand - December 3, 2015 at 5:00 pm
RE: so christians get this - by Drich - December 4, 2015 at 11:20 am
RE: so christians get this - by dyresand - December 4, 2015 at 11:33 am
RE: so christians get this - by Drich - December 4, 2015 at 1:38 pm
RE: so christians get this - by drfuzzy - December 4, 2015 at 2:02 pm
RE: so christians get this - by Drich - December 3, 2015 at 10:37 am
RE: so christians get this - by Cyberman - December 3, 2015 at 11:00 am
RE: so christians get this - by Drich - December 3, 2015 at 11:10 am
RE: so christians get this - by drfuzzy - December 4, 2015 at 2:29 pm
RE: so christians get this - by Minimalist - December 2, 2015 at 12:17 pm
RE: so christians get this - by IATIA - December 7, 2015 at 11:43 am
RE: so christians get this - by Grandizer - December 7, 2015 at 11:55 am
RE: so christians get this - by athrock - December 11, 2015 at 8:42 am
RE: so christians get this - by tjakey - December 2, 2015 at 10:13 am
RE: so christians get this - by dyresand - December 2, 2015 at 10:24 am
RE: so christians get this - by vorlon13 - December 2, 2015 at 10:51 am
RE: so christians get this - by dyresand - December 2, 2015 at 10:54 am
RE: so christians get this - by Faith No More - December 2, 2015 at 10:48 am
RE: so christians get this - by Drich - December 2, 2015 at 3:26 pm
RE: so christians get this - by rexbeccarox - December 2, 2015 at 3:28 pm
RE: so christians get this - by Drich - December 3, 2015 at 10:23 am
RE: so christians get this - by Athene - December 5, 2015 at 1:37 am
RE: so christians get this - by Drich - December 7, 2015 at 11:37 am
RE: so christians get this - by Athene - December 7, 2015 at 12:45 pm
RE: so christians get this - by robvalue - December 2, 2015 at 12:05 pm
RE: so christians get this - by dyresand - December 2, 2015 at 12:10 pm
RE: so christians get this - by vorlon13 - December 2, 2015 at 8:22 pm
so christians get this - by KUSA - December 2, 2015 at 1:59 pm
RE: so christians get this - by Neo-Scholastic - December 2, 2015 at 9:17 pm
RE: so christians get this - by dyresand - December 2, 2015 at 9:32 pm
RE: so christians get this - by Reforged - December 2, 2015 at 11:21 pm
RE: so christians get this - by Hmmm? - December 3, 2015 at 10:44 am
RE: so christians get this - by Drich - December 3, 2015 at 11:09 am
RE: so christians get this - by Cyberman - December 3, 2015 at 11:23 am
RE: so christians get this - by Drich - December 4, 2015 at 11:17 am
RE: so christians get this - by Cyberman - December 4, 2015 at 11:36 am
RE: so christians get this - by Drich - December 4, 2015 at 1:45 pm
RE: so christians get this - by Hmmm? - December 3, 2015 at 11:59 am
RE: so christians get this - by rexbeccarox - December 3, 2015 at 12:34 pm
RE: so christians get this - by Drich - December 4, 2015 at 11:19 am
RE: so christians get this - by Cyberman - December 4, 2015 at 11:39 am
RE: so christians get this - by Drich - December 4, 2015 at 1:42 pm
RE: so christians get this - by Cyberman - December 4, 2015 at 2:15 pm
RE: so christians get this - by drfuzzy - December 4, 2015 at 2:18 pm
RE: so christians get this - by John V - December 4, 2015 at 12:45 pm
RE: so christians get this - by Whateverist - December 4, 2015 at 12:48 pm
RE: so christians get this - by dyresand - December 4, 2015 at 1:13 pm
RE: so christians get this - by Drich - December 4, 2015 at 1:50 pm
RE: so christians get this - by Grandizer - December 4, 2015 at 2:20 pm
RE: so christians get this - by Wyrd of Gawd - December 5, 2015 at 5:38 am
RE: so christians get this - by dyresand - December 5, 2015 at 9:59 am
RE: so christians get this - by Drich - December 7, 2015 at 11:14 am
RE: so christians get this - by Cyberman - December 4, 2015 at 2:13 pm
RE: so christians get this - by Grandizer - December 4, 2015 at 2:16 pm
RE: so christians get this - by Minimalist - December 4, 2015 at 2:16 pm
RE: so christians get this - by GoHalos1993 - December 9, 2015 at 10:43 pm
RE: so christians get this - by dyresand - December 10, 2015 at 12:41 am

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