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Have you ever seen people say Vladimir Putin is a good leader?
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RE: Have you ever seen people say Vladimir Putin is a good leader?
Okay, yes I understand the argument. But the way I see it, if x number of innocent people get hurt, and y person or people could have prevented it, then there's a variable that you can add to it, which is empathy. (I suck at math but bear with me.) So yeah, your statements are true, they're very nice statements actually, which put things in perspective. What is right and wrong is what feels right and wrong. Except my point is that when you add care for other people's pain, then whether or not you care is independent of whether or not caring for them is right. Right being determined by if innocent people are being caused harm.

Yes, there's a lot of different ways you can look at any moral argument. There's some really complex ones that I still remember from high school. One such argument was, if a friend walks into a bathroom and sees his other friend raping a little girl, is he obligated to report that person? Is he complicit with the crime? Yeah, there's very complex moral issues, but I think that you can measure quite a few of them. One such issue which I always seem to be repeating like a broken record, is is it right to persecute gay people? I'd like to think that any arguments against that that doesn't hold up to scrutiny could be refuted. Why would we even have the word refute if there wasn't a statement that could be defined as true or false? So anyways, my point is Putin persecutes gay people, he makes the lives of innocent people horrible. I fail to see how he's a great leader.
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RE: Have you ever seen people say Vladimir Putin is a good leader? - by DespondentFishdeathMasochismo - December 3, 2015 at 8:10 pm

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