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Guns, and my most recent Facebook Post.
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RE: Guns, and my most recent Facebook Post.
(December 5, 2015 at 7:14 pm)Spooky Wrote:
(December 5, 2015 at 7:07 pm)RaphielDrake Wrote: 1. I don't think the American government is up to enforcing the kind of regulation that would allow to keep guns and keep people safe at the same time.
You could make the case that its not a gun issue, its a mental health issue. Alright, fine. Yes. However guns make it alot easier to kill people and we're shit at handling mental health issues. Theres only so much you can do and even if we had a handle on it getting rid of guns would still help alleviate the ease with which extreme violence is perpetrated. 2. Have you ever tried to stab someone to death? Its actually alot harder than you would imagine. There have been people who have been stabbed like 20 times in the back and torso and still survived. Even if you are an expert and know how to access all the vital areas with ease its still nowhere near as efficient as a firearm.
3. Like Jim Jerfferies says theres only one legitimate reason to be pro-gun; "Fuck off, I like guns. Sad"
Its not going to win any debates but its the best you've got.

1. Not sure what to say, I'm not a 100% believer in the US Government either.  "Keeping people safe" is a little abstract though.  There's plenty of things that will kill you.  Again, I haven't any statistics for you, but I doubt guns top the list.

2. Yes I have.

3. I sincerely hope that isn't the best the pro-gun population has.  Telling somebody to fuck off is no way to have a conversation.

I've owned many guns, and shot many thousands of rounds without issue.  I may be biased due to experience and training, but cars (and the people who drive them) scare me more than guns.

Come on, lets not get pedantic. We both know what I mean by keeping safe; keeping bullets from entering peoples living bodies and converting them to dead bodies. Yes you can stab someone or use all kinds of tools but most violent crime is opportunistic. The less convenient the opportunity that presents itself is the less likely it is that it will be taken advantage of. Guns are very convenient and lethal weapons. 

Anecdotal evidence. Statistics back up the fact that guns cause more violence than they resolve and that the most likely victim to be on the receiving end of a bullet of a gun is fired at a living person is the owner of that gun. Its a major contributor to suicide thanks to the convenience it offers. Like violent crime suicide appears to be opportunistic as demonstrated by the fact that when we made it impossible to gas yourself using an oven the rates of suicide fell and never went back up. A large percentage of people when not presented with a convenient opportunity pursued it no further.

 This isn't even taking into account premeditated violence. Guns make that *really* easy. Don't get me wrong; guns are awesome. A marvel of physics and mechanics, really. Lets not get confused though. They kill people. At an astonishing rate. You make guns illegal the murder rate falls. We know this. Its not surprising, it makes perfect sense. The reasons to keep guns around have diminished greatly seen as they would be useless against a tyrannical government now due to the advent of drones and fighter jets. Thats not an explanation we can use now.

The remaining pro-gun reasons that counts now are as follows;
"I like guns"
"I really like shooting targets."
"In the extremely unlikely event someone breaks in to kill me with a gun I want to kill them with my gun first."
"I want to feel safe."
"Its part of our culture."
"That is not dead which can eternal lie and with strange aeons even death may die." 
- Abdul Alhazred.
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Guns, and my most recent Facebook Post. - by Spooky - December 5, 2015 at 6:55 pm
RE: Guns, and my most recent Facebook Post. - by Reforged - December 5, 2015 at 7:07 pm
RE: Guns, and my most recent Facebook Post. - by Spooky - December 5, 2015 at 7:14 pm
RE: Guns, and my most recent Facebook Post. - by Reforged - December 5, 2015 at 8:39 pm
RE: Guns, and my most recent Facebook Post. - by Spooky - December 5, 2015 at 9:08 pm
RE: Guns, and my most recent Facebook Post. - by Reforged - December 5, 2015 at 9:48 pm
RE: Guns, and my most recent Facebook Post. - by Spooky - December 5, 2015 at 10:23 pm
RE: Guns, and my most recent Facebook Post. - by Napoléon - December 5, 2015 at 7:15 pm
RE: Guns, and my most recent Facebook Post. - by Spooky - December 5, 2015 at 7:16 pm
RE: Guns, and my most recent Facebook Post. - by Napoléon - December 5, 2015 at 7:19 pm
RE: Guns, and my most recent Facebook Post. - by Spooky - December 5, 2015 at 7:24 pm
RE: Guns, and my most recent Facebook Post. - by Spooky - December 5, 2015 at 7:19 pm
RE: Guns, and my most recent Facebook Post. - by Mermaid - December 5, 2015 at 7:20 pm
RE: Guns, and my most recent Facebook Post. - by Spooky - December 5, 2015 at 7:29 pm
RE: Guns, and my most recent Facebook Post. - by Spooky - December 5, 2015 at 8:31 pm
RE: Guns, and my most recent Facebook Post. - by Napoléon - December 5, 2015 at 7:22 pm
RE: Guns, and my most recent Facebook Post. - by Spooky - December 5, 2015 at 7:39 pm
RE: Guns, and my most recent Facebook Post. - by ignoramus - December 5, 2015 at 9:10 pm
RE: Guns, and my most recent Facebook Post. - by Spooky - December 5, 2015 at 9:13 pm
RE: Guns, and my most recent Facebook Post. - by brewer - December 5, 2015 at 9:44 pm
RE: Guns, and my most recent Facebook Post. - by GoHalos1993 - December 5, 2015 at 10:16 pm
RE: Guns, and my most recent Facebook Post. - by Spooky - December 5, 2015 at 10:28 pm
RE: Guns, and my most recent Facebook Post. - by brewer - December 5, 2015 at 11:17 pm
RE: Guns, and my most recent Facebook Post. - by Spooky - December 5, 2015 at 11:27 pm
RE: Guns, and my most recent Facebook Post. - by brewer - December 5, 2015 at 11:30 pm
RE: Guns, and my most recent Facebook Post. - by Spooky - December 5, 2015 at 10:40 pm
RE: Guns, and my most recent Facebook Post. - by Wyrd of Gawd - December 5, 2015 at 11:52 pm
RE: Guns, and my most recent Facebook Post. - by Spooky - December 5, 2015 at 11:53 pm
RE: Guns, and my most recent Facebook Post. - by Wyrd of Gawd - December 6, 2015 at 12:04 am
RE: Guns, and my most recent Facebook Post. - by Wyrd of Gawd - December 6, 2015 at 12:10 am
Guns, and my most recent Facebook Post. - by KUSA - December 6, 2015 at 1:11 am

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