RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation
December 7, 2015 at 2:39 pm
(This post was last modified: December 7, 2015 at 3:10 pm by God of Mr. Hanky.)
(December 7, 2015 at 1:43 pm)Dystopia Wrote:(December 7, 2015 at 1:42 pm)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote: If you really don't smell the rankness of that red herring, then I'm afraid this thread is going to bury you.
Race <> Ideology, Choice, Moral Code, Public Statements, nor Actions, and none of this needs explaining to most people in this world!
Quote:Well, can you prove that anything is a choice?
1. That people are faced with multiple options in life requires no proof.
2. That people are to some extent influenced behaviorally by their genes is evidential to some extent, but no data attests for complete control by them.
3. That they are capable of choosing Option B over Option A would be hard to prove, if you have never observed any effective behavioral modification in the individual.
4. (2) and (3) notwithstanding, humans are not puppets. Our natural proclivities which certain genes control are instinctive behaviors, not cognitive, which is on a higher level. We have neural complexity which is levels above other large land mammals, and it opens up our field of options wide so that we can counteract our base instincts, if our cognition calls for it. The field grows with the growth of perception, and we had to evolve very high perception before we were capable of living in densely-packed and stable societies. Ask any competent neurologist, my money says he can prove this!
5. Even much smaller-brained animals can be trained to modify their behavior, to some extent.
6. Can a dog be trained to modify its behavior? Then human behavior can be modified, and behavioral modification actually happens only when the individual makes a different choice!
By primordial human standards, Islamic society is backward, and this is by unfortunate choice!
Quote:I don't think this is about "choices", it's about people belonging to a specific artificial group and having to apologize for what members of the same group did now or a few hundred years ago.
What makes a group "artificial"?
The last time I checked, racial groups were of very natural origin.
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