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US Muslims struggle with condemnation
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RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation
(December 7, 2015 at 3:35 pm)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote:
(December 7, 2015 at 3:04 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: ... but racist groups aren't.

The fact that I'm not asked to answer for the behavior of white-supremacist groups, while random Muslims are expected to answer for the acts of other Muslims who have a different version of their religion -- that fact is the point.  It's a double standard.

If my son were a white-supremacist, I would denounce him (and any atrocity he might commit). But some random asshole up in Idaho? He has to answer for himself. And I have the luxury of holding that attitude, because it is not expected of me to answer for him.

You want an American Muslim to condemn acts of terror?  They do it all the time. They have to -- it is expected of them.

There does seem to be some cognitive dissonance here, **sigh**:

Race is a natural group, racism is artificial.

Islam is artificial.

You should never have to answer for what anyone else does on account of anyone's ridiculous association of you to said asshole on account of your race - this  is no choice that you ever could have made! Race is not a choice because you could never have had the option of shedding your skin in trade of one more politically fashionable.

Islam is in fact a choice, hard though that choice may be for many of its followers when they choose to swim against the stream. You really do have the choice not to publicly endorse Islam, and you can even walk away from it completely. The idea that anti-Islamic sentiment is a race thing is the work of Islamic asshats, and the even bigger non-Islamic or white ones who get paid to project their wrongs on the rest of the world. It's easy to do, considering how overzealous cops have profiled those who "look Islamic", but the fact is that people of all races are Musims - Islam is not a natural physical trait!

Sorry, but based on the above, I see no valid point in your argument.

What you're missing is that you're grouping all Muslims together. When you get to seeing that, we can perhaps make headway in this discussion.

I'm not nor have I ever argued that Islam is a race. That is a strawman you're beating there. You should learn the difference between a comparison and an equivalence.

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US Muslims struggle with condemnation - by brewer - December 6, 2015 at 9:53 pm
RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation - by Dystopia - December 6, 2015 at 9:56 pm
RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation - by paulpablo - December 6, 2015 at 10:00 pm
RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation - by brewer - December 6, 2015 at 10:08 pm
RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation - by The Valkyrie - December 6, 2015 at 10:26 pm
RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation - by Dystopia - December 7, 2015 at 1:41 pm
RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation - by CapnAwesome - December 7, 2015 at 5:19 pm
RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation - by vorlon13 - December 6, 2015 at 10:23 pm
RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation - by abaris - December 6, 2015 at 10:36 pm
RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation - by brewer - December 7, 2015 at 11:39 am
RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation - by Mister Agenda - December 7, 2015 at 3:59 pm
RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation - by Minimalist - December 6, 2015 at 10:36 pm
RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation - by paulpablo - December 6, 2015 at 10:39 pm
RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation - by Minimalist - December 6, 2015 at 10:44 pm
RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation - by Thumpalumpacus - December 6, 2015 at 10:49 pm
RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation - by paulpablo - December 6, 2015 at 10:53 pm
RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation - by Thumpalumpacus - December 6, 2015 at 10:57 pm
RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation - by paulpablo - December 6, 2015 at 11:20 pm
RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation - by Catholic_Lady - December 7, 2015 at 10:22 am
RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation - by Catholic_Lady - December 7, 2015 at 3:56 pm
RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation - by Mister Agenda - December 7, 2015 at 4:04 pm
RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation - by Catholic_Lady - December 7, 2015 at 5:11 pm
RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation - by Catholic_Lady - December 7, 2015 at 5:29 pm
RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation - by Mister Agenda - December 7, 2015 at 3:45 pm
RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation - by paulpablo - December 7, 2015 at 4:09 pm
RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation - by Thumpalumpacus - December 8, 2015 at 12:35 pm
RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation - by Dystopia - December 7, 2015 at 1:43 pm
RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation - by Thumpalumpacus - December 7, 2015 at 3:47 pm
RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation - by Mister Agenda - December 7, 2015 at 4:02 pm
RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation - by abaris - December 7, 2015 at 5:08 pm
RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation - by CapnAwesome - December 7, 2015 at 5:26 pm
RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation - by Mister Agenda - December 7, 2015 at 3:38 pm
RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation - by brewer - December 7, 2015 at 11:42 am
RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation - by Thumpalumpacus - December 6, 2015 at 11:02 pm
RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation - by Thumpalumpacus - December 6, 2015 at 11:17 pm
RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation - by Thumpalumpacus - December 6, 2015 at 11:18 pm
RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation - by Thumpalumpacus - December 6, 2015 at 11:31 pm
RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation - by paulpablo - December 6, 2015 at 11:33 pm
RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation - by Thumpalumpacus - December 7, 2015 at 12:28 am
RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation - by Minimalist - December 6, 2015 at 11:32 pm
RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation - by Gormo - December 7, 2015 at 12:02 am
RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation - by Mister Agenda - December 7, 2015 at 3:48 pm
RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation - by Catholic_Lady - December 7, 2015 at 10:11 am
RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation - by Wyrd of Gawd - December 7, 2015 at 1:01 pm
RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation - by paulpablo - December 7, 2015 at 2:17 pm
RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation - by Wyrd of Gawd - December 7, 2015 at 6:10 pm
RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation - by CapnAwesome - December 7, 2015 at 6:14 pm
RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation - by Wyrd of Gawd - December 7, 2015 at 8:02 pm
RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation - by paulpablo - December 7, 2015 at 7:36 pm
RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation - by vorlon13 - December 7, 2015 at 2:20 pm
RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation - by Wyrd of Gawd - December 7, 2015 at 7:33 pm
RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation - by Minimalist - December 7, 2015 at 1:20 pm
RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation - by Mister Agenda - December 7, 2015 at 4:48 pm
RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation - by CapnAwesome - December 7, 2015 at 9:26 pm
RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation - by Wyrd of Gawd - December 8, 2015 at 2:08 am
RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation - by paulpablo - December 8, 2015 at 7:38 am
RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation - by vorlon13 - December 7, 2015 at 9:38 pm
RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation - by Gormo - December 7, 2015 at 10:29 pm
RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation - by vorlon13 - December 7, 2015 at 10:59 pm
RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation - by vorlon13 - December 8, 2015 at 12:53 am
RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation - by Catholic_Lady - December 8, 2015 at 1:18 am
RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation - by abaris - December 8, 2015 at 1:15 pm
RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation - by Catholic_Lady - December 8, 2015 at 11:51 pm
RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation - by Minimalist - December 9, 2015 at 12:09 am
RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation - by vorlon13 - December 9, 2015 at 12:18 am

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