RE: US Muslims struggle with condemnation
December 7, 2015 at 9:13 pm
(This post was last modified: December 7, 2015 at 9:22 pm by God of Mr. Hanky.)
(December 7, 2015 at 5:36 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:(December 7, 2015 at 4:22 pm)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote: So we know that when it comes to political control vs. religious ideas and your country is on the border, we know what comes first.
Q. What stops the rest of the Middle East from gladly joining ISIS?
A. Political control.
Q. What most motivates the evangelical Xtians of America in their attempts at influencing our government and lording their legislation over others who still care about their Constitutional rights?
A. Political control. It certainly isn't the integrity of their religion, much less their own moral integrity!
The point is that we all have better reason for knowing they aren't all the same. Because the second one in any such Xtian group does something evil with official or secretive sectarian support, the others will get up and cry foul, as a way of distancing themselves from the stink. I'm an atheist, and I also believe organizational atheist leaders should do the same when atheists kill out of hatred. So then, why won't Muslim leaders do this? It's because they'd rather give us the finger, and stupid Western journalists enable them to get away with it!
Except that Muslim leaders do do exactly that.
Maybe you meant to elaborate a little more. You seem to be the only one who's aware of any Muslim leaders specifically condemning fatwas, political misogyny, barbarism for justice, or any other stomach-turning practices carried out in the Middle East, Africa, and Indonesia which are supported by their holy book. Islam may be bitterly divided, but the last time I checked they still had one relatively unmodified book. If any of the world Imams so much as condemned acts of terror, that in itself would be something, but in no way would it be enough.
(December 7, 2015 at 6:10 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: What I said was that muslim and white supermacists kill an insignificant number of people in America at this time. Crazy cops,friends, family member, and neighbors kill people like they're mowing the lawn.
Over 200,000 dead from crazy cops, friends, family members, and neighbors versus less than 100 dead during the same period from muslim and white supermacists. Of the two death tolls which would would rather have? If only 93 people had been murdered in all of America since 2001 you would think you're living in heaven. Instead people run around like crazy chickens clamoring for wars in foreign countries that will cost $trillions which they don't want to pay for with taxes. In addition they want thousands of military personnel to get killed and wounded because they are wimpy cowards who fear some insignificant problem that they are willing to surrender all of their freedoms in a vain attempt to gain safety. The real enemy is the people who want to do that.
Do you really think you're saying anything relevant with this? There are fewer Muslims in America than Jews, which is about 1% of the population, and that's far fewer than atheists at 3%! Bring in enough Muslims to match the white population, and watch the body count rise!
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