(December 7, 2015 at 10:22 pm)bennyboy Wrote:(December 6, 2015 at 5:08 pm)Sappho Wrote: Sorry for not being clear about that, but I meant : on what ground can we judge and sentence people, what is the motivation for the punishment (to paid for what is done or just to remove from society) and what can such a punishment be?This is easy, and it's a process, not a rule. If someone is behaving in a way you dislike, you look around. If other people also dislike the behavior, you agree to a rule. If someone breaks the rule, whether they agreed to it or not, you collectively exert your power to make him stop, or to punish him for his transgression. And then you sit someone at a big desk with a curly wig, and he reads a big fat book of these rules, and decides what happens to the people in front of him.
No Sky Daddy was involved, or at least needed to be involved, in any part of this.
It's a good answer but to the wrong question I believe. I asked for what ground of motivation, and not the process. Of course I know how that works.
How, to be specific, can you justify/explain(/on what ground) that, for exemple how it goes in america, someone can be executed just for not fitting in the big picture made up by some people called the law; just a bunch of rules.
We can look at it in another way too: why do we find the laws of ISIS wrong and ours not, since when no 'sky daddy' is around every rule is subjective. So the only difference should be a 'slight' other opinion on what the rules are.
Do you agree?
whatever floats your goat