dqualk Wrote:So I'm curious... aww that spark of wonder, it seems to me that there are two worldviews out there with a high view of reason. One states that there is love, there is beauty, there is meaning. The other states, that in truth there is no love, beauty or meaning, these things are actually the result of material interactions etc. The only love, beauty and meaning are actually just a lie that we believe because it feels good (which is ultimately irrational, but who cares right?). This always boils down to Theism (in its broadest sense) and atheism in its material sense.Typical of theists... no offense, but you've already started off with a false premise salted by the rhetoric by those opposed to atheism.
The main difference between you and I is that you think these things can only be because of a being you believe to exist that has infiante power. What I realize is that the world has all these things without such a necessity.
People choose their own paths and I have my own life to live. Belief in god seems to dehumanize us all because none of our accomplishments, morals, and greatest triumphs are our own.
Theists also tend to ignore the fact that god doesn't hold human life in high regard in the bible.
dqualk Wrote:The point of all this rambling is to arrive at a Cross roads between meaningfulness and meaninglessness. Why would anyone choose to accept a reality void of meaning? Christianity, especially Catholicism, is not irrational. In fact, Reason is strongest when it flows from the Ultimate Reason; reason is stronger within Catholicism than it is in any other worldview, especially atheism.Who says we think reality is devoid of meaning? I certainly don't.
So why choose to believe that there is no meaning, when there is such a BEAUTIFUL system given to us by the God-man Christ, which is so meaningful?
In Christ
If today you can take a thing like evolution and make it a crime to teach in the public schools, tomorrow you can make it a crime to teach it in the private schools and next year you can make it a crime to teach it to the hustings or in the church. At the next session you may ban books and the newspapers...
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925
Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925
Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan
