Relayer Wrote:With the Christian God, it is either necessary that He exists or impossible. To say that it is possible, probable or even improbable that He exists leads to the conclusion that He does exist. (This is a conclusion of the modal ontological argument.) So it is not a case of probability with the Christian God.
Thats a bit of a reach and one that I dont agree with. There is zero evidence for the god of the bible. I rate scientology as a more viable belief and that religion is laughable. (it gets extra points for positing an alien overlord, rather than anything as hyper unlikely as a god).
Quote:To prove that you have experienced a tree, do you need to prove that a tree exists first?
Well it would be a good start wouldn't it.
Also a thorough and definitive description of the tree would be nice. I note we have a moving target in the nature of god. Just when one aspect gets disproved theists make excuses and shuffle the goal posts.
Quote:What I mean is this:
You acknowledge in your use of argumentation that things like the laws of logic exist and universally apply. In order for an atheistic worldview to be consistent, it needs to be able to provide some plausible explanation of this. One of the major arguments for the Christian God put forward is the Transcendental Argument for God (TAG), which argues (to put it very simply, and to give only one aspect of the argument) that if the laws of logic exist, then the Christian God exists (equivalently, if the Christian God does not exist, then the laws of logic do not exist). So TAG challenges your assumption that the laws of logic exist.
Utter bullshit of the highest order. The following is a quote from an article in iron chariots.org
Quote:logical absolutes are not conceptual by nature. Instead, they are a physical property of reality—observed by humans and pointed to with language.
http://wiki.ironchariots.org/index.php?t...l_argument
Oh and hello by the way, I dont think we've met before.
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
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