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Meaningfulness v meaninglessness; theism vs atheism;
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RE: Meaningfulness v meaninglessness; theism vs atheism;
dqualk Wrote:I can't beleive a person with an elf as their picture is trying to tell me about fairy tales.
At least KichigaiNeko has an avatar picture.
Even so, KichigaiNeko doesn't confuse fairy tales with reality while also coming here to tell us that we don't think there is any meaning in the world without an imaginary friend.

dqualk Wrote:You are militantly ignorant. It is a shame. You do your cause no justice by being stupid and insulting. To say that Theism is believing anything anyone tells you, or the same thing as believing in Santa Clause is to say that some of the greatest minds of all time, and indeed some of the greatest minds living today, are not only incorrect but absolutely stupid. Grow up you child. You're not a whorish looking dark elf, you are a human being, created in the Imago Dei with meaning, not fake decietful meaning, but real meaning which stems from the love of an eternal God, not subject to temporality.
First of all, the greatest minds of all time can believe in some crazy things and can still be dead wrong on many things. For example, if Einstein could reconsile his views on quantum mechanics with observation, who knows where he could have gotten with his attempts at a grand unification theory.
Not to mention people like Capernicus, Galileo, Newton, and numerous others. Furthermore, most of the greatest thinking minds today are either atheists and agnostics with a relative minority of those who have reconsiled their religious views with their scientific views to maintain their objectivity.

Second of all, you have no real reason to believe anything else you said in the quote above.

dqualk Wrote:You have no idea what kind of dialouge that I am involved with. Perhaps I was raised an athesit and converted to Catholicism? It is certainly not unbelievable as there are many very intelligent people who have done so. You are a shameful person, and I believe you are one of those who atheism transformed into a worse person. That is not to say that all who are or become atheist become less moral as a result, but I'm sure you were one of them. Shame on you.
intelligent isn't the same thing as deluded.
There are many intelligent theists, but each of them, by definition, are deluded.

dqualk Wrote:There is no such thing as objective meaning or success within a material-only world.
... and you say this based on... what exactly? The love of god?
When there is evidence of this BS, the school textbooks will certainly be amended.

dqualk Wrote:You're success is another man's very real failure; it is wholly subjective. Your meaning is ultimately a lie that you beleive so that you do not commit suicide. As they say, the most important question in philosophy is, "should I kill myself?" For a Christian, and many Theists, the answer is simple, no there is a God who loves me and desires me to live and grow, to truly succeed. For an atheist the answer is either yes, or no becuase it is more pleasing at the moment to my material self to believe in a lie that anything I do is actually meaningful, or are you thinking at all? Most likely you are just random atoms banging around producing some illusion that appears to be thought. Ultimately you become some utilitarian epicurean, who can no longer objectively say that there is a Truth, or at least an objectively meaningful Truth. And in this sense Hitler is a hero for those who enjoy Hitler's lie (or the materialist subjective truth).

I think you've just proven my point about the delusions you have about atheism. Drink AIG Koolaid much?
My hate/snootiness-o-meter reads at straight-jacket levels.
If today you can take a thing like evolution and make it a crime to teach in the public schools, tomorrow you can make it a crime to teach it in the private schools and next year you can make it a crime to teach it to the hustings or in the church. At the next session you may ban books and the newspapers...
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925

Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan
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RE: Meaningfulness v meaninglessness; theism vs atheism; - by TheDarkestOfAngels - January 10, 2011 at 5:06 pm

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