dqualk Wrote:To Shell B,
He is the one being insulting. I am responding in a negative manner. I do not need to define how the Church speaks as a while She has done that Herself, perhaps if you studied it a little you would find how the Church speaks as a whole. Ignorant.
I never said he wasn't being insulting.
You really think you have enough information about the scope of my knowledge to call me ignorant?
dqualk Wrote:I can write I am an atheist on my-shirt or any other stupid slogan and that doesnt make me an atheist. Hitler had many Priests and Bishops killed and threatened to kill the Pope himself. Hitler made many negative comments about religion in general. There are many documentaries, books and resources on Hitler and what he believed. For certain he did not give two shits about the Church. He saw it simply as a means to a sick sadistic end.
How does hating religion have anything to do with belief in god? I know deists who hate religion and antitheists who believe in god. You're going to have to do better than that.
For the record, there are a lot of documentaries, books and resources on Hitler that are made by theists who aren't historians. Hitler was not an atheist. The man said as much himself. You can speculate on what was "really" going on all you want, but the closest thing you can get to facts regarding a person's belief are their own words. Sure, he may have been a hypocrite, but that doesn't make him an atheist.
dqualk Wrote:Why don't you show me how it is bull shit that the Church has always condemned anti-semetism. Jesus Himself is a Jew.
What did the Pope do about the Holocaust? Oh, shit, nothing?
dqualk Wrote:Mary is a Jew, all of the apostles were Jews, Paul was a Jew, St. John of the Cross and Teresa Avilla were Jews. The Church has always and everywhere condemend any racism.
That's interesting. I'm pretty sure churches used to be segregated in the United States.
dqualk Wrote:He is a liar because he said Hitler is a good Catholic. This is just a lie.
He's as good as any other.
dqualk Wrote:You Shell B are clearly only writing to insult as well. You are not attempting to parse out truth, you are just defending this person because he is similar to you and attacking me becasue you enjoy insulting Christians, very lame.
Oh, take off your security blanket of perceived persecution. I don't have to defend Min. I'm not big on insulting for the sake of insulting, either. If you had taken a day or two to post an introduction and feel out the forums, you would have known that.
dqualk Wrote:Anger is virtuous at times.
No, not "virtuous," righteous, or self-righteous. Anger is not a virtue.
dqualk Wrote:I'm not angry at just anyone. I'm not even really angry at minimalist. I'm angry becaues someone is pretending to be intelligent when really there are as bad as any dogmatic person who says things that are not to the point just to make people angry. Like you for example.
Haha, you called me dogmatic. Quick question: How do you go about "pretending to be intelligent?"
dqualk Wrote:And last and certainly not least, who defines what is Christian like? I promise you that it is not your stupid opinion. Do not go about saying "that wasn't very Christian of you" when you know nothing of Christianity. But I think it is funny that you recognize how Christians are typically tender to people out of their love for their neighbor. I will say that you represent your atheist community in a vile and stupid way. Fortunately I am not quick to apply to all atheist the stupidity of you and minimalist. And I'm sure you and minimalist are actually not that bad, except when you are talking to a Christian on the internet.
dqualk Wrote:But I would ask that you and minimalist refrain from stupid arguemnts like, Hitler was a Catholic so Catholics are evil.
Well, aren't you a great big maker of strawmen? I never called Catholics evil. I didn't even say Hitler was Christian. I said he wasn't an atheist.
dqualk Wrote:Or some priests commited attrocities in the past so Catholics are evil, as if atheist are pure as the wind driven snow. Grow up.
In the past? What like fucking yesterday? Your religion's priests are having sex with small children. Put your bible down and read a newspaper.
