RE: Meaningfulness v meaninglessness; theism vs atheism;
January 11, 2011 at 8:54 am
(This post was last modified: January 11, 2011 at 12:59 pm by KichigaiNeko.)
dqualk Wrote:lol this forum is useless.
And on this forum you have the right to voice that opinion.....it is in error though
dqualk Wrote:I actually came here becuaes my friend said that there were really intelligent people here and he was curious how they would respond to what I say.
Sounds like you were set up by this 'friend' of yours
dqualk Wrote:Well apparently you respond with massive amounts of insults. I did not insult anyone personally, except minimalist and shell b who insulted me first, and I essentially insulted them by saying they are insulting.
This IS an ATHEIST forum ...what did you expect??? Warm fluffy bunny greetings regarding your 'skydaddy'??
dqualk Wrote:How evil you are to speak so cruelly to another.
Evil is the Catholic church here ...sorry buddy but this is a fact. Cruel?? Where is it written that life is NOT cruel??
dqualk Wrote:You know as a Christian who important God is to me.
Yes I know many Mental Health Clients who say the same thing
dqualk Wrote:Yet you do not even take the least amount of respect into consideration.
I think tacky has the right idea...respect is EARNED
dqualk Wrote:All I'm saying is that God can be the something that makes things make sense, the unmvoed mover. This is the same reason Aristotle postulated that an atemporal being must exist.
Again..this is YOUR opinion and I will fight to the death for you to have it BUT don't expect me to support you in your delusion...How are your therapy sessions going??
dqualk Wrote:Within atheism there is no sense. There is just illusion. There is really no thought and ultimately everything is passing into the great nihil.
This is where YOU are in error...Atheism makes MORE sense to us...this is our Right and you have no business telling us otherwise
dqualk Wrote:Christianity is far from being obviously true when based on reason alone, and I never claimed it was. A lot of the stuff thevoid is argueing against me about I never used as an arguement. I never said you should believe God becasue of x rational reason.
Thankyou...you are sounding like a troll....trying to convert 'the heathens' ....go away
dqualk Wrote:I get the feeling that most of you who have posted on here are not concerned with any kind of dialouge, you just jump at the chance to insult people becuase you are so arrogant.
So far YOU are the one who has been insulting ...You in your ARROGANCE who think you are chosen and special....grow up
dqualk Wrote:You have lied to yourself that you have some kind of rational high ground from which you can belittle people. The fact is I am in good company.
YES! religion is ALL about belittling others NOT of YOUR particular faith...YES???
dqualk Wrote:I did not come on here or start this post to prove God with reason. Far from it. Once again my point is to say that a Christian DOES say that there is intrinsic value. The value judgements are of God are not the same value judgements as ours as there are ultimate.
And your evidence for this is???
dqualk Wrote:Yes this kind of power does not exist within a temporal realm, but we do not have the tools by which to peek into an eternal realm to see how things work in a temporal realm, so we cannot think about it.
What ever you are smoking ...I would give it up NOW!!!
dqualk Wrote:I for one believe in intrinsic value, somethings are good, somethigns are beautiful, some things are bad, some things are evil.I know this is true because it is a priori to me. I have come to the conclusion that there is nothing within this temporal realm that could make something intrinsically good etc so I know that there must be another realm that does not experience change, and is an eternal realm from which all good things flow.
Including the things that (as you say) are bad, what a lot of gobbldy gook, (and you seriously believe what you are saying??)....there is no other 'realm' imho....but feel free to think so if it makes your childish life easier.
dqualk Wrote:If you would stop being blinded by hate for me you would see where my position is.
No one here "Hates" you..that is paranoia spurred on from a religious perspective.... I doubt very much anyone 'here' is blind.
dqualk Wrote:I am not saying atheist are dumb or that they don't make sense, I have respect for SOME*
atheists I have none, as of now for most of you. And frankly I'm not sure anyone would after the way you've treated me. Shame shame shame
O'RlY??? Your WHOLE post has been to denigrate this forum, it's people, and it's reason for being ...what a funny little hypocrite you are
dqualk Wrote:You all have no respect for any view other than your own, or a view close to it.
Here we have a great respect for well thought out, intelligent and adult reasoning.....you perhaps should get in touch with tacky to learn how an adult interacts with a forum like this.
NO............... We have no time for childish wishful thinking
NO............... We have no time for people wanting to 'PUSH' religion down our throats
YES.............. We have the best intentions regarding intelligent debate
YES.............. We will slam your skydaddy at every opportunity because...
THIS IS AN ATHEIST FORUM!!
Get with the program or perhaps your thoughts would be better utilised on another forum??
Shheeeeeeesh!!
PS..fixed your thread but left the spelling errors in for you...try iSpell or Spellcheck...it helps with credulity...trust me on this one!
"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
