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Some parental advice from all the lovely parentals? Non parentals also welcome :D
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RE: Some parental advice from all the lovely parentals? Non parentals also welcome :D
(December 11, 2015 at 9:08 am)Losty Wrote: She's going to be 1 year younger than her other classmates. I do buy her books and engage her mind in different activities outside of school, but when she's at school she has to do whatever her class is doing.
An early life lesson..sometimes, hell..most of the time..you have to sit through boring meetings that don't interest or challenge you in the least.   Wink

Quote:I don't know why you think being a year younger would lock her out of sports?  I was a year younger than most of my classmates and I played sports just fine. But no I don't plan to be rich, I also don't see her being much of an athlete, but you never know. I don't understand why you think being one year younger than other students is going to have such a huge impact. I also don't understand why you think I haven't considered this. Like I'm just making some rash decision. I have considered the possible social issues and I think she can handle it.
Because it does, that's why I think that.  You "played sports fine" isn't what I'm angling for.  The way we think of years and age (and how we place for school) means that someone who's "just a year older" than your child could be one year and 364 days older.   That's alot of potential inches, potential pounds, seconds off a 100m time, etc.  As far as academics go..it's best if your kid is the very top of their own class, rather than, say, the top 10th of the class ahead.  

You asked for input, I don't know what you've considered and haven't.  What I -do- know is that skipping is seen...for no reason at all, as an accomplishment, an achievement, or otherwise as something desirable.  Consider me the devils advocate on this one.  I doubt that your decision today will make or break your childs education either way, honestly, and also that you'll be able to eliminate frustration from your child's educational experience by something so trivial as skipping a grade.  If you have a bright kid..she'll get bored of her skipped up grade as well.  If you don't consider sports scholarships or relative performance placement to be useful metrics for making the decision.....then I'd say flipping a coin could decide this one with nary an effect either way.

I don't mean to offend you or heckle you in any way (you know I love you..I'm certain that whatever choice you make after all consideration will be the right one for -your- child Wink )

That said, just voicing opposition.   In our system, there is no advantage to skipping a grade.... while there are disadvantages.  That what you want to achieve (an educational challenge) can be offered to your daughter (probably -is- being offered to your daughter) by other means without associated disadvantage..and that skipping a grade does not actually secure the aim in the first place.  In a perfect world there wouldn't be "grades" or skipping.  Just a pace that accelerated or decelerated based upon the ability of the child.  Our system is far from perfect and it simply doesn't reward that sort of fulfillment/challenge seeking in the least (a constant complaint of educators).  Ideologically, it's pleasing, it seems like a good idea and if it was well incorporated "somehow" I'd quickly change my mind about my own kids.  

My own personal experience with skipping is amusing.  There was some talk of holding me back a grade in 1st iirc (not even kidding)..prompting a battery of tests that surprised my school and my parents.  Turns out I wasn;t dumb, or at least not dumb in the way that they thought I was, lol.  Later, in middle school, there was an opportunity to skip a grade offered every single year, my mother declined.  Fast forward to the week before my 16th (the earliest a student could voluntarily drop out without consequence)......I'm sitting in front of my high school principal smiling like a cheshire cat at the irony of having Mr. Education Education.....Education actually advise me to drop out and pursue higher ed after a GED due to a gross lack of challenge or opportunity.  I was in Magnet, CAST, MEGSS, and of course I'd percolated up to all of that from Gifted.  None of these programs challenged me (this was my family's fault...I come from a family of teachers..I did more schoolwork at home and on vacation than I ever did in school).  It wouldn't have mattered if I were held back or skipped any more than being placed in every single program offered helped.  I spent my time at school reading whatever I wanted...and I'd done it for so long across so many schools that a some point nobody even questioned it anymore.  "That's Tyler, in the back he's fine".  Straight F's..always one class with straight A's (for comedic effect), crushed standardized testing like it was my job..which, I suppose I felt that it kind of was.  My mom had taught me the test...as in very literally the manner in which those tests and their answers were generated and placed in multiple choice parameters, helped me game their silly system with a legitimately effective "christmas tree strategy" to answers when I really didn't know.   Pretty sure it left me jaded, knowing that there were angry moms and dads who really wanted their kid in my spot, that their kids probably deserved it..but that for reasons arcane to me then (but now plainly transparent - I boosted their state score averages) - I just skated on through year after year where they'd flunk or drop (or both) plenty of others.  I was encouraged to perform - and that's how I interpreted the expectation.  You could be in for serious headaches with a smart kid, and sometimes we don;t think about how the ways we encourage our children to perform will be interpreted by them, or how well they'll handle them.  

You think your girl could handle skipping a grade..I have no reason to disagree with your assessment of your child, but I do think that the fact that we're discussing it in that manner should set off alarm bells, lol.  If you're considering whether or not to subject her to something she'll have to handle....to my mind, in your situation,  there has to be a  damned clear objective, and it had better be attainable.  Kinda hoping that mine are all average, so I don't ever have to wonder, lol.  Here's a Q.  Lets say you skip her..because why not.  Two months later she's bored, she's stolen textbooks a grade higher still and read them just for shits and giggles.  How will you feel about the skip in that, admittedly speculative, scenario?  She's "handling" her new situation, but the problem persists.  What's next?

(you've got arouras response up there for the more pleasant view, lol.  She skipped, didn't seem to impact her education or social aptitude.....don't know if skipping would have helped her brother though, that comes out of left field.  "My brother ate a peach...AND DIED!" Wink  )
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RE: Some parental advice from all the lovely parentals? Non parentals also welcome :D - by The Grand Nudger - December 11, 2015 at 2:22 pm

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