RE: The Not-so-elephant In The Room
December 13, 2015 at 2:30 am
(This post was last modified: December 13, 2015 at 2:35 am by Thumpalumpacus.)
(December 13, 2015 at 1:32 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(December 11, 2015 at 11:39 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Then you're wrong. Crackers don't turn into flesh, wine doesn't turn into blood, and I can devise an experiment to demonstrate that, if you have the guts to challenge your silly claims.
We don't believe they physically turn into flesh/blood. It's more of a spiritual thing, but definitely something that we think is very real.
the Catechism' authors Wrote:The Council of Trent summarizes the Catholic faith by declaring: "Because Christ our Redeemer said that it was truly his body that he was offering under the species of bread, it has always been the conviction of the Church of God, and this holy Council now declares again, that by the consecration of the bread and wine there takes place a change of the whole substance of the bread into the substance of the body of Christ our Lord and of the whole substance of the wine into the substance of his blood. This change the holy Catholic Church has fittingly and properly called transubstantiation."
http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/1376.htm
Clearly, by use of the word "substance" in this context, the reference is to material change, not "spiritual" -- whatever you mean by that.
