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The Ontological Argument for the Existence of God
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RE: The Ontological Argument for the Existence of God
(December 13, 2015 at 2:34 am)Irrational Wrote:
(December 12, 2015 at 11:15 pm)IATIA Wrote: Completely invalid and I am surprised that anyone would even entertain this type of argument.

  1. Why is it possible? I do not think it possible.
  2. Even if it were possible, that does not mandate it's existence.  Unicorns are possible and they do not exist.
  3. Letting #1 and #2 slide, by what caveat does that pose it's existence in all worlds?
  4. Gotta get by 1,2, and 3 first.

It is valid argument, but it is nothing more than a trick, that's all.

To be fair, understanding modal ontological argument is a feat in itself.

I do not see the validity in it.  Besides the points I made above, earlier I showed (along with others) that substitution displays the invalidity.

Effectively, any entity can be thrown in the argument and be ?logically? proven to "exist in all worlds".

How do you rationalize step two as that is the most detrimental to the argument with #3 a nose-to-nose second.
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RE: The Ontological Argument for the Existence of God - by IATIA - December 13, 2015 at 11:52 am
RE: The Ontological Argument for the Existence of God - by Cato - December 17, 2015 at 10:10 pm
RE: The Ontological Argument for the Existence of God - by Cato - December 17, 2015 at 11:33 pm
RE: The Ontological Argument for the Existence of God - by Cato - December 19, 2015 at 12:59 pm
RE: The Ontological Argument for the Existence of God - by Cato - December 24, 2015 at 10:26 am

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