tackattack Wrote:For instnace 4 weeks ago we had no music at our service in our new church because no one knew how to play insturments. The worship team and I prayed for God to provide someone who could play music before servicestarted. After service we had a little luncheon and we invited some of the new faces in to eat with us. One of them played guitar and volunteered without being asked to play for our services. Next week we enjoyed the guitarbut after service the worship team and I prayed that we could find someone to use the keyboard that we had. The following week's service we had a new face who spoke to Sue about wanting to play the keyboard for us. Isn't that tangible and measurable? When we prayed over my son that his pain would stop and he wouldn't have any more pain when he lost his fingernail and it happened was that psychosomatic reasoning for an 8 year old? I know it's going to get written off as coincidence or some other excuse, but yoou can't say it's immeasurable or not "real". I'm sure you'll try though.
So "God" provided you with a band and he stopped the pain caused by a missing fingernail in your 8 year old son.
Since he obviously responds to your relatively trivial requests, why don't you ask him to provide clean drinking water to parts of the world that lack it? Come on! If he acts to provide you with a band, surely he'll respond to a request that will improve the lives of millions!
And since he stopped the pain from a missing fingernail in your child, why don't you ask this deity to stop the pain experienced by all the children in the world who have cancer? Surely, if he'll act to stop pain caused by a minor thing lika a missing fingernail, he'll respond to your request to end serious pain and suffering that would allow tens of thousands of children to enjoy life (not to mention make their parents joyous).
So I expect you to pray for these things (after all, why wouldn't you?). And I expect that I'll see news stories very shortly telling us about the miraculous discovery of clean drinking water all over the world, and how child cancer wards are rapidly emptying because the disease is suddenly and inexplicably disappearing.
But we both know these things will not happen despite how hard and sincerely you pray. And you'll have some excuse such as "prayer doesn't work that way". But then you try to sell us some silly story about how "God" provided your church with a band or your kid's minor pain was relieved. Either your deity answers prayers or he doesn't. Why would he answer a plea for something as trivial as a band while prayers for starving children are ignored?
Science flies us to the moon and stars. Religion flies us into buildings.
God allowed 200,000 people to die in an earthquake. So what makes you think he cares about YOUR problems?
God allowed 200,000 people to die in an earthquake. So what makes you think he cares about YOUR problems?