Meaningfulness v meaninglessness; theism vs atheism;

[Ashendant]

The Catholic Church has consistently condemned Nazism to this day and will continue to in the future, including all the Popes since Hitler. Many many priests and Bishops lost their lives condemning nazism. The Pontiff did not condemn it in his day for fear that it would cause the destruction of the Vatican and the loss of even more Catholic lives around the world. Many people do not realize that what the Pope says can cost the lives of thousands, indeed millions.

They can condemn all they want, doesn't change the fact that hitler and most nazis were Christian

It is meaningless to say Hitler was a Catholic. He clearly hated everything about the Catholic Church. Would I be an atheist if I consistently called myself an atheist but I sought to root out atheism in the world because I thought it was stupid? Hitler may not have been an atheist, but he certainly wasn't a Christian. I personally think he was an atheist because his motivations came from the idea that evolution was the key destiny of man, and that the chief job of "good" men was to further evolution by destroying the lesser races, and conditioning the greater race to evolve well. And he clearly had no fear of God whatsoever. If anything at all that is an atheistic motivation, in that you seek the meaing behind destiny and right and wrong from a natural source rather than a supernatural source. However, I suppose he could have been a deist or some other jacked up theist, I'm not saying deist are necessarily jacked up, but he would be one jacked up diest in this case.

He was still Christian, yes he was anti-organized religion but he still fully believed in Christianity, otherwise he wouldn't have gone to church, just saying that he worshipped deism and theism doesn't make up for the fact that he was going to Christian church, his vision was just more materialistic than of other people

How about you silly athesit (not that all atheists are silly) try to prove that Hitler was a Christian with personal statements of his orthodox belief and his behavior? Did Hitler go to Mass? Did he do anything that would suggest that he actually was a Christian with Christian convictions? Did he do anything that might suggest he HATED Christianity, like perhaps kill Christians, destroy churches, threaten the Pope and break nearly every teaching of the Catholic Church?

He did go to church, he was a Christian that was anti-organization, the inquisition did the same to the jews that refused to convert, he hated organized religion in general, Christian kill Christians so this argument is moot, i don't know if he destroyed churches, pope was a powerful figure, and so do every Christian everyday

Ryft thank you for saying clearly, and without tangent, what I intended to say. Once again my only point in starting this thread was to demonstrate that atheist lack sujective value, and I believe that Theism is a well respected and intellectual position which gives subjective value, so why would one not choose a subjectively meaningful system.

Not it's not a intellectual position, in fact you have to be a moron enough to believe it without evidence, and usually just gives people a bloated ego, after all they are the sons of god, i've seen furries give a better anti-drama argument for their silly beliefs it's called "Fuck you, I'm a Dragon".