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The Ontological Argument for the Existence of God
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RE: The Ontological Argument for the Existence of God
(December 15, 2015 at 12:05 pm)athrock Wrote:
(December 15, 2015 at 8:04 am)excitedpenguin Wrote: That actually makes sense.

But now replace 'maximally great being' with 'thing that makes maximally great being's existence impossible'.

There you go. You just proved God exists and I killed him for you. Do I get cookies?

Not really. 

A "maximally great being" is not merely a superhuman being with characteristics that are a lot like ours only bigger and better. God is not merely Superman.

[Image: 4450945-superman+1.jpeg]

One of the properties of a "maximally great being" is that it does not "come into existence". It has always existed.

So, if it is your conclusion that the Ontological Argument proves that God exists, and you have failed to kill him, then you are left with an existent God.

I'm sorry, but it doesn't work that way and you're strawmanning me.

It's pretty simple, actually. If you can prove God in that way, I can prove an anti-God in a similar manner. The two entities cancel each other out and you're left with nothing but bad philosophy.
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RE: The Ontological Argument for the Existence of God - by Excited Penguin - December 15, 2015 at 12:32 pm
RE: The Ontological Argument for the Existence of God - by Cato - December 17, 2015 at 10:10 pm
RE: The Ontological Argument for the Existence of God - by Cato - December 17, 2015 at 11:33 pm
RE: The Ontological Argument for the Existence of God - by Cato - December 19, 2015 at 12:59 pm
RE: The Ontological Argument for the Existence of God - by Cato - December 24, 2015 at 10:26 am

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