(December 17, 2015 at 11:53 am)drfuzzy Wrote:How is that relevant? How is your belief in a claim relevant to the accuracy of an ancient text and it's translation from Greek to English?(December 17, 2015 at 4:33 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: Which Greek alphabet is that word written in?
So, let me see if I have this right: We're on an atheist forum, where the vast majority of the members supposedly do not believe that god, heaven, or hell exists. Most of us are in agreement that the Holy Babble is a deeply flawed piece of human literature.
A quote was made from 11 English translations regarding the meaning of "eternal" or "everlasting".
So, somebody who apparently is not a Greek scholar looks up a Greek word - gets conflicting translations - and tries to use it to prove his original point . . . by strongly implying that all of the English translations are, well, to be generous, let's say "unclear". Lek's original point seems to be that Hell is not ETERNAL torture. It's a finite period of time.
Drippy Doodle gets into the mix somehow, but I have him on ignore.
Is no-one going to point out that 1) the entire argument is spurious and moot to people who don't believe in the existence of god or hell;
(December 17, 2015 at 11:53 am)drfuzzy Wrote: 2) Lek's pleading to the mis-translation of this passage can be applied to the entire book with ease, andEven the definite articles?
(December 17, 2015 at 11:53 am)drfuzzy Wrote: 3) attempting to re-define hell and its duration is acknowledging that the original concept is flawed, illogical, unbelievably cruel and unfair?By that logic, when new scientific discoveries lead to a redefining of the cosmos and a changing of the duration of it's existence, we are now acknowledging that the original concept (the cosmos) is flawed, illogical, unbelievably cruel and unfair? A person's understanding of a concept has no bearing on the truth or validity of the concept.
If it could be proven beyond doubt that God exists...
and that He is the one spoken of in the Bible...
would you repent of your sins and place your faith in Jesus Christ?