ziggystardust Wrote:To Dqualk,
I am mystified in why you would defending certain actions committed by the Roman Catholic church. Namely the church's support for the Nazi regime, which included smuggling Nazi criminals to South America after WW2. Also the culture which has existed for long time of the church protecting priests who have molested children. Not to mention church's continued failure to admit the obvious.
The only explanation I have for your attitudes are that your deeply held faith in Roman Catholicism has blinded you.
I am mystified to how you have allowed atheism to blind you. The fact is when one atheist does something we do not bind it on the whole. When on teacher and student do something we do not bind it on the entire school system. When on police officer shoots a black man because he is black we do not say the entire police force is evil etc etc etc etc
The Church has a way by which it represents its whole. Thats through the Tradition of the Church, through councils and through the Pope. In all of these areas the Church clearly CLEARLY teaches that such acts as molestation and covering it up are grave evil, and those who commit such acts are worthy of hell. When the cover ups came to light the Church did everything it could to ensure that it wouldn't happen again by enforcing the Canon Laws already in place that dealt with the matter in an appropriate way. The Church lacks the ability to spy on all her members to keep them from doing evil, and if it did it still couldn't stop them from doing evil as the Church is not omnipotent. With that said those who covered up or molested are disgusting people who have scandalized the Church SHAME on them. However, the Church as a whole is a good institution with good laws and good teachings, ESPECIALLY concerning cover ups and child molestation.
I would like to envoke Einstein who actually lived through the Nazi regime an saw what was happening first hand:
Being a lover of freedom, when the revolution came in Germany, I looked to the universities to defend it, knowing that they had always boasted of their devotion to the cause of truth; but, no, the universities immediately were silenced. Then I looked to the great editors of the newspapers whose flaming editorials in days gone by had proclaimed their love of freedom; but they, like the universities, were silenced in a few short weeks….
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Only the Church stood squarely across the path of Hitler’s campaign for suppressing truth. I never had any special interest in the Church before, but now I feel a great affection and admiration because the Church alone has had the courage and persistence to stand for intellectual truth and moral freedom. I am forced thus to confess that what I once despised I now praise unreservedly.
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- Albert Einstein, Time magazine, 23rd December, 1940 p. 38
There are many such accounts, for example the Chief Rabbi of Rome converted to Catholicism after WW II and took the NAME of Pope Piux XII because of his heroic example in opposing Nazism. Stop reading your stupid revisionist history. Yes tehre were evil "Catholics" who did evil things, but they did it in opposition to the Church, and therefore the Church cannot be blamed as a whole.
