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The Ontological Argument for the Existence of God
RE: The Ontological Argument for the Existence of God
(December 17, 2015 at 10:16 pm)Stimbo Wrote: How do you know the attributes of pink unicorns to come to the conclusion that they're not "possibly necessary"?

A necessary being by definition would be such that it cannot be otherwise. This cannot be pink unicorns for example because they have size, a taint, etc, which all can vary and none of them are necessary characteristics. The same is true of matter in a universe, it may have different properties, be a different amount, be in a different arrangement. Therefore a universe cannot be necessary nor matter. That is logically, it's possible in some possible world, there to be a different type of order to the universe or different amount of matter or different properties. Whatever the necessary being is, it's such that it cannot be otherwise in any possible world.

Thinking about this, it seems to strongly point to God to be the necessary being.  Aside from the strange premise that if a necessary being is possible, then it surely exists (which is proven in model logic), we see that in fact, when you think about it, this being cannot 1.

Have properties that can be different (ie. size, amount, etc)
It's what by definition must be what it is in all possible worlds for all possible worlds to exist.

This seems to suggest it is independent while everything is dependent on it.  To me it seems obvious this must be perfection in the absolute sense.  That by definition cannot be different, but must be what it is. And it being absolute, it cannot be increased or decreased or have differing properties that another possible world can have a different necessary being.

This being being the source of all existence, the true nature of existence, at the very least to me seems rationally possible. And if that so, by model logic, it is so.
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RE: The Ontological Argument for the Existence of God - by Cato - December 17, 2015 at 10:10 pm
RE: The Ontological Argument for the Existence of God - by Cato - December 17, 2015 at 11:33 pm
RE: The Ontological Argument for the Existence of God - by Cato - December 19, 2015 at 12:59 pm
RE: The Ontological Argument for the Existence of God - by MysticKnight - December 17, 2015 at 10:27 pm
RE: The Ontological Argument for the Existence of God - by Cato - December 24, 2015 at 10:26 am

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