(December 20, 2015 at 11:23 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I've presented many arguments for God here over the years.
My experience is that they come to deny primary premises which cannot be proven except by direct experience or witnessing.
For example, deny we know we have perpetual identity. Deny we know we inherit our actions (it becomes part of who we are). Deny we know there is objective praise or morality or value or worth or greatness or honor. Deny there are stages -higher and lower, and that this system of inheriting our actions is obvious. Deny the light. Deny everything that points to God. Even deny we know free-will exists if it leads you to believe in a soul.
But this is to me is to no surprise no more. I have thought of the issue of how obvious it is upon sincere reflection of what we are. That we are spiritual beings, souls, it's obvious we aren't just a program created by a biological machine, but that, we really are something of substance....not just an experience created through what doesn't have experience. We aren't non-material experience created by material. We are spiritual beings. It's so manifest, so clear.
God is the Manifest True King.
I use to think most Atheists would not mind believing in God if they were presented evidence. But I've come to the conclusion, very few of humanity seek the truth or embrace it when they find it.
This is a prime example of the sort claim I would briefly read through then ignore so I could focus my attention on things that aren't babble.
Just reading the phrase "Deny the light, everything that points to god, god is the manifest true king." makes me think I'm reading nonsense.
Are you ready for the fire? We are firemen. WE ARE FIREMEN! The heat doesn’t bother us. We live in the heat. We train in the heat. It tells us that we’re ready, we’re at home, we’re where we’re supposed to be. Flames don’t intimidate us. What do we do? We control the flame. We control them. We move the flames where we want to. And then we extinguish them.
Impersonation is treason.