(December 20, 2015 at 11:22 pm)paulpablo Wrote:(December 20, 2015 at 11:10 pm)Delicate Wrote: Thoughts on the response?
It's the same as the OP. You say you see no evidence. It's an open question whether this is because there is no evidence, or because you simply haven't looked.
One way to show your atheism is not a result of ignorance is to grapple with the provided evidence.
But it's also a way to spend your life grappling with millions of false claims about god.
I'm not just making an offhand remark or a simple joke when I say that. It's simply like one fire brigade trying to put out every fire in the world, with new forest fires starting everyday.
Practically speaking even if I set out on a new mission to tackle every claim of evidence that there is a god, abandoned my family, friends and newborn baby and job and focused on this one goal, I still would probably not have tackled even 10% of the claims made, and it's more than likely the 10% I did try and tackle would still be sure they were right even if they were wrong, and new religious claims would have been made by the time of my death, and entirely new religions created with new cult leaders.
I won't deny I ignore things and I'm full of ignorance. Ignorance is a by-product of focus. Normal functional people have to ignore things, it's a survival skill to decide what to ignore and what to focus on in life. If you paid attention and gave merit to every scam, false advertisement, cult in the world you simply wouldn't have time to live.
I've been raised with the "evidence" in the form of the bible, rejected that, become acquainted with the quran, same bullshit, and I see a lot of different claims on here that are either easily proven wrong or so vague that that can't be proven wrong or right and pretty much don't mean anything.
One might say the same about science. Science involves grappling with millions of false claims about reality to discover the truth.
If science can survive this ordeal to discover the truth about reality, atheists can survive this ordeal to discover the truth about God.
Or, you know, one can be intellectually honest and be an agnostic, because they haven't been able to successfully justify atheism.
Or, one can depend on philosophers or other specialists as a filter so only the good arguments remain, many of which are in circulation today.
The situation isn't hopeless.
