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Sad thought about Jesus.
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RE: Sad thought about Jesus.
(December 18, 2015 at 7:38 am)Brian37 Wrote:
(December 17, 2015 at 9:27 pm)Lek Wrote: You've distorted the whole situation to the max, but you're free to believe what you want.

No I have not distorted a thing. Your problem is that you swallowed the book without skepticism so of course you don't read it objectively. Just like if you point out the nasty parts of the Koran a Muslim will jump all over you as well.

Now, instead of saying my short summery is a distortion because you don't like my book review, try understanding it like you would if you saw a bad movie or read a bad work of fiction.

From the start, as the book goes, the head character is an unmovable figure who does everything by himself and doesn't ask anyone for consent, he simply does it. In reality outside that book, the west has gotten away from the concept of kings and lords which are dictators. The royalty that still exists in Europe and Japan have been neutered to basically diplomat status. 

Take your deity googles off. Back in all of antiquity even in polytheism the ruling class where at best puppet governments even in Rome. Some allowed more self governance but ultimately even a Cesar could override what the senate did. Even they moved up through family rule, by the death of those prior or the murder by a competitive family member. 

The Egyptians also mistook their success as coming from the divine. So if you go back and read that bible without your beer goggles on, you do see the words like Kingdom and Lord and master. Because back then humans lived in very feudal times and there was no modern class pluralistic rule. Back then in most societies you had family rule, government class, which was upper class, and military class, the rest of society basically were the servants for the other three. 

Now again, the head character is not the nice guy you interpret him as. I get that you like him and want to view him like that, but that character was mistaken as real, but he was not written like that for modern society, he is a reflection of the false perceptions of the people back then and their own desires. Just like you'd rightfully accept the Native American's spirit gods are a reflection of what their social norms were back when people made them up.

There is no way to paint the god of Abraham as objectively pluralistic. Being kind some of the time or to some people, and even trying to get out of the concept of hell through cherry picking still puts him in absolute power. In real life, our elected officials don't have absolute power. The god of the bible is not elected like a PM or President in the west. Now instead of seeing that as an insult go back and read the bible word for word and don't skip anything and don't try to justify clinging to that book, just simply read it like you had never picked it up before.


He is a dictator, there is simply no polite way to put it. That is what you call an immovable position.
Your view is quite biased.

All scripture describes a way of being that is beneficial to All existence for its sake, not the one creator God's. Following the teachings and direction of God is not missing anything's ass. It is a means to attain a blissful, productive, peaceful, meaningful state wholly as a whole in reciprocation to the One creative force that is responsible for all other good and creation known and unknown to man and his own flaw through choice.

Faith in selfless Unity for Good.
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Sad thought about Jesus. - by TrueChristian - December 14, 2015 at 6:05 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by Chad32 - December 14, 2015 at 6:10 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by Brian37 - December 17, 2015 at 2:51 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by Lek - December 17, 2015 at 3:34 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by Brian37 - December 17, 2015 at 5:32 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by Lek - December 17, 2015 at 9:27 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by Brian37 - December 18, 2015 at 7:38 am
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by orangebox21 - December 18, 2015 at 4:45 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by Faith No More - December 14, 2015 at 6:15 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by God of Mr. Hanky - December 19, 2015 at 1:34 am
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by Wyrd of Gawd - December 14, 2015 at 6:16 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by Minimalist - December 14, 2015 at 6:18 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by Cyberman - December 14, 2015 at 6:22 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by vorlon13 - December 14, 2015 at 6:47 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by drfuzzy - December 14, 2015 at 8:02 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by ignoramus - December 14, 2015 at 9:11 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by Cyberman - December 14, 2015 at 9:13 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by Homeless Nutter - December 15, 2015 at 12:11 am
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by ignoramus - December 15, 2015 at 12:28 am
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by Homeless Nutter - December 15, 2015 at 6:15 am
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by athrock - December 15, 2015 at 1:13 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by Crossless1 - December 15, 2015 at 1:16 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by Sappho - December 15, 2015 at 9:45 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by Drich - December 16, 2015 at 12:46 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by Lek - December 16, 2015 at 7:37 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by Cyberman - December 16, 2015 at 4:04 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by Minimalist - December 16, 2015 at 7:52 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by Lek - December 16, 2015 at 8:04 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by Wyrd of Gawd - December 16, 2015 at 9:15 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by Minimalist - December 16, 2015 at 9:38 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by orangebox21 - December 17, 2015 at 3:29 am
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by Wyrd of Gawd - December 17, 2015 at 4:33 am
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by drfuzzy - December 17, 2015 at 11:53 am
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by orangebox21 - December 17, 2015 at 4:52 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by drfuzzy - December 17, 2015 at 5:10 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by Minimalist - December 17, 2015 at 12:02 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by Lek - December 17, 2015 at 2:30 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by Wyrd of Gawd - December 18, 2015 at 11:35 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by Drich - December 17, 2015 at 9:31 am
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by orangebox21 - December 17, 2015 at 3:12 am
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by RobbyPants - December 17, 2015 at 3:00 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by Brian37 - December 17, 2015 at 5:39 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by Minimalist - December 18, 2015 at 5:13 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by Wyrd of Gawd - December 18, 2015 at 11:38 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by dyresand - December 19, 2015 at 1:09 am
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by robvalue - December 19, 2015 at 4:29 am
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by Wyrd of Gawd - December 19, 2015 at 4:40 am
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by robvalue - December 19, 2015 at 6:04 am
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by Brian37 - December 19, 2015 at 8:05 am
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by Wyrd of Gawd - December 19, 2015 at 1:24 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by God of Mr. Hanky - December 19, 2015 at 6:05 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by Wyrd of Gawd - December 20, 2015 at 1:01 am
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by God of Mr. Hanky - December 20, 2015 at 2:10 am
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by robvalue - December 19, 2015 at 9:22 am
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by orangebox21 - December 19, 2015 at 12:09 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by robvalue - December 19, 2015 at 12:59 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by Crossless1 - December 19, 2015 at 1:02 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by Cyberman - December 20, 2015 at 1:09 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by Wyrd of Gawd - December 21, 2015 at 12:14 am
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by Iroscato - December 21, 2015 at 12:35 am
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by Wyrd of Gawd - December 21, 2015 at 1:04 am
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by Iroscato - December 21, 2015 at 8:37 am
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by Brian37 - December 21, 2015 at 9:08 am
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by God of Mr. Hanky - December 21, 2015 at 9:25 am
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by popsthebuilder - December 21, 2015 at 11:26 am
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by popsthebuilder - December 21, 2015 at 11:28 am
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by drfuzzy - December 21, 2015 at 11:35 am
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by God of Mr. Hanky - December 21, 2015 at 12:08 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by orangebox21 - December 22, 2015 at 1:07 am
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by Minimalist - December 22, 2015 at 2:50 am
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by popsthebuilder - December 21, 2015 at 11:41 am
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by popsthebuilder - December 21, 2015 at 11:42 am
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by popsthebuilder - December 21, 2015 at 11:46 am
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by popsthebuilder - December 21, 2015 at 11:49 am
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by popsthebuilder - December 21, 2015 at 12:04 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by popsthebuilder - December 21, 2015 at 1:43 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by God of Mr. Hanky - December 21, 2015 at 3:54 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by popsthebuilder - December 21, 2015 at 8:46 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by God of Mr. Hanky - December 21, 2015 at 10:34 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by The Valkyrie - December 21, 2015 at 8:50 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by Cyberman - December 21, 2015 at 10:49 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by dyresand - December 22, 2015 at 1:17 am
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by Athene - December 22, 2015 at 1:35 am
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by popsthebuilder - December 22, 2015 at 2:44 am
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by God of Mr. Hanky - December 22, 2015 at 2:50 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by popsthebuilder - December 22, 2015 at 12:14 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by popsthebuilder - December 22, 2015 at 12:21 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by Homeless Nutter - December 22, 2015 at 2:23 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by Cyberman - December 22, 2015 at 2:18 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by popsthebuilder - December 22, 2015 at 8:15 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by popsthebuilder - December 22, 2015 at 9:10 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by God of Mr. Hanky - December 22, 2015 at 9:15 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by orangebox21 - December 22, 2015 at 11:36 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by popsthebuilder - December 22, 2015 at 9:42 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by God of Mr. Hanky - December 23, 2015 at 12:30 am
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by robvalue - December 23, 2015 at 2:25 am
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by popsthebuilder - December 23, 2015 at 3:03 am
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by Wyrd of Gawd - December 23, 2015 at 4:05 am
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by orangebox21 - December 23, 2015 at 11:55 am
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by popsthebuilder - December 23, 2015 at 3:05 am
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by robvalue - December 23, 2015 at 4:19 am
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by popsthebuilder - December 23, 2015 at 4:28 am
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by God of Mr. Hanky - December 23, 2015 at 10:10 am
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by Wyrd of Gawd - December 23, 2015 at 9:02 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by Brakeman - December 24, 2015 at 12:33 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by popsthebuilder - December 23, 2015 at 11:04 am
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by God of Mr. Hanky - December 23, 2015 at 11:54 am
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by God of Mr. Hanky - December 23, 2015 at 12:46 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by popsthebuilder - December 23, 2015 at 12:27 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by popsthebuilder - December 23, 2015 at 2:21 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by God of Mr. Hanky - December 24, 2015 at 6:37 am
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by Cyberman - December 24, 2015 at 7:24 am
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by popsthebuilder - December 24, 2015 at 10:32 am
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by dyresand - December 24, 2015 at 12:23 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by Brian37 - December 24, 2015 at 12:52 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by God of Mr. Hanky - December 24, 2015 at 5:49 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by popsthebuilder - December 24, 2015 at 5:26 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by Brian37 - December 24, 2015 at 7:04 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by popsthebuilder - December 24, 2015 at 5:28 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by popsthebuilder - December 24, 2015 at 5:30 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by Minimalist - December 24, 2015 at 5:56 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by popsthebuilder - December 24, 2015 at 6:26 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by Cecelia - December 24, 2015 at 7:10 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by God of Mr. Hanky - December 24, 2015 at 7:31 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by Angrboda - December 24, 2015 at 9:01 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by Brian37 - December 24, 2015 at 6:55 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by Wyrd of Gawd - December 24, 2015 at 10:04 pm
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by popsthebuilder - December 25, 2015 at 12:52 am
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by popsthebuilder - December 25, 2015 at 12:53 am
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by popsthebuilder - December 25, 2015 at 12:59 am
RE: Sad thought about Jesus. - by popsthebuilder - December 25, 2015 at 12:59 am

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