(December 21, 2015 at 2:06 pm)Delicate Wrote:(December 21, 2015 at 2:04 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Do you actually think that quibbling over labels constitutes some real victory over what we as atheists actually believe?
Not necessarily a victory. But I think it points out the self-deception atheists engage in.
And intellectually responsible atheists care about not engaging in self-deception.
It's simply a label that best suits us. Agnostic means something, it derives from the root word "gnosis," meaning knowledge, and was coined specifically to denote a person that doesn't claim absolute knowledge of a thing, specifically in religious circles. It doesn't denote one's beliefs in any sense, merely their knowledge claims, demonstrably so. That the word has been corrupted by people misunderstanding it doesn't mean that it can't be fruitfully applied to people to more accurately describe their positions: I am an agnostic atheist, meaning I do not believe in a god (atheist) yet claim no special knowledge on that (agnostic.)
No self-deception, just a proper understanding of both words and their meanings. My label comes from knowledge, not deception.
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