Sad thought about Jesus.

[God of Mr. Hanky]

Faith in selfless Unity Action for Good is what I can get on board with.

"Unity" is dangerously problematic because it puts a halt on the critical thought processes which are required for anyone to really see the difference between good and evil. If I were to start thinking like everyone else again, as I did (or tried to) when I was a Christian, then I would become blind to abuses within my organization for the presumption that Christian organizational leaders are appointed by my god. I would see only the friendly smile, and hear only comforting words, and it would take something particularly outrageous and vile to wake me up to the notion that said leader isn't really what he's supposed to be.

Scripture <> Good unless you are already a Christian,

and

Good <> God.

Therefore, if you want to sell your bible or your god outside of your echo chamber (sorry, but you act exactly like one who just crawled out of one), then you have a lot of proving to do. Protip: Don't waste time on bible quotes, that old pile means nothing here. Also, don't argue, because argument is not evidence, and evidence is both culture-proof and reason-proof (just in case you don't understand the word "empirical").

Unity in the context I mean is speaking of the potential of whole peaceable unity throughout existence and life for the benefit thereof. It has the potential also to be all inclusive, but only if all were to adhere to the instinctual selfless conscience within themselves imparted by God and made possible to reunite with via the teachings, way, example, and self sacrifice of the one true Christ.

You speak of my God; I speak of One Creator GOD. I'd be delighted to speak of any topic, or specifics you would like. Insults or negativity in any form is counter productive, and a waste of energy.

Peace

Faith in selfless Unity for Good.

You have every right to believe what you wish to, just as we choose instead to believe what science and logic explains to us better. But don't forget you are on an atheist forum, where presumptions that your god not only exists, but is also a good one are not shared by most.

On unity, it's specifically by not encouraging the hive mentality of that sort of thinking that we see bad ideas corrected, better ones promoted, and the increase of good in this world.

Regarding good, the only connection between this and faith exists in the minds of the faithful. Any large crowd of normal people understands what basic ideas they share in common regarding how good is defined, and no doctrine from any religious leader is required for these ideas to be put to practice. Most of us don't steal from other, rape or kill other people because The 10 Commandments our social evolution weeded out the majority of those with the temperament for doing such things to others. Which is good that it did, or to be more specific it's good that the entire human species did not evolve to be predatory. Human is not the sort of animal which survives well as solitary and predatory individuals, and most of us can do no better this way when we prey on each other. Therefore it happened that when those with better social traits were born, they and their offspring survived. How else do you think humanity could have persisted for the thousands of years in which it did prior to being handed down those commandments by the non-historical figure Moses? We also have developed through our evolution empathy for each other of a mutual sort, this too makes the typical individual's life longer and richer.

The point I'm trying to make is not only that there is probably no need for faith in helping most people grasp the underlying foundations of good, but that it's best that we apply reason and present evidence (not rhetorical argumentafion) for the cases we make when we argue the finer detail which would improve society. I have observed closely just how effective religious ideas are at helping with that for 50 years, and the sad news in my conclusion is that at best a doctrine for a god (faith requires this, otherwise its object goes undefined) can at best repeat the basic ideas on good which already exist naturally in us. At worst...do I really need to go on? It's the efforts which believers make to protect their doctrines which get in the way of positive social progress.