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The Ontological Argument for the Existence of God
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RE: The Ontological Argument for the Existence of God
December 22, 2015 at 5:57 pm (This post was last modified: December 22, 2015 at 5:57 pm by Pizza.)
athrock Wrote:Because in order for a being to be maximally great, being personal is one of the characteristics is must have by definition.

Personal means that the being has rationality, self-consciousness and volition (will).

A non-personal being which lacks one or more of these things is less great than a personal being.
You don't get to just claim that. You still don't get it. I don't believe the conceptual analysis is correct. You guys seem to think you can just assume this from the start. You need to actually support this conceptual analysis with something more that posturing, mere assert, tautologies, and arguments from definitions.

Personally I don't believe in the existence of a maximally great being because a maximally great being wouldn't create a universe that isn't maximally great universe. A maximally great creator would make a maximally great creation by definition...oh see what I did there?
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The Ontological Argument for the Existence of God

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RE: The Ontological Argument for the Existence of God - by Cato - December 17, 2015 at 10:10 pm
RE: The Ontological Argument for the Existence of God - by Cato - December 17, 2015 at 11:33 pm
RE: The Ontological Argument for the Existence of God - by Cato - December 19, 2015 at 12:59 pm
RE: The Ontological Argument for the Existence of God - by Cato - December 24, 2015 at 10:26 am
RE: The Ontological Argument for the Existence of God - by Pizza - December 22, 2015 at 5:57 pm

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