(December 23, 2015 at 1:31 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:(December 23, 2015 at 1:21 pm)AAA Wrote: What you've done there is to confuse our ability to observe and obtain information from what we observe with someone imputing data and making plans.
The fine tuned universe has been so often refuted that i'm not even going to bother doing it again. There are threads and thread on it here suffice it to say that it is a silly argument that does not hold any value.
No they don't.
You may think that, but you would be wrong.
Even atheistic biologists would not disagree with the fact that cells contain information. The information itself is useless without proteins to interact with it. The proteins by themselves are useless without the DNA to code for their structure. Fine tuned universe is not a silly argument, you change the strength of gravity or the rate of expansion of the universe by the slightest bit and planets don't form. Of course planet formation is poorly explained by natural means. You just say that these arguments are wrong without offering a reason why.