(December 23, 2015 at 2:42 am)robvalue Wrote:(December 22, 2015 at 5:57 pm)Pizza Wrote: You don't get to just claim that. You still don't get it. I don't believe the conceptual analysis is correct. You guys seem to think you can just assume this from the start. You need to actually support this conceptual analysis with something more that posturing, mere assert, tautologies, and arguments from definitions.
Personally I don't believe in the existence of a maximally great being because a maximally great being wouldn't create a universe that isn't maximally great universe. A maximally great creator would make a maximally great creation by definition...oh see what I did there?
If there is a god as powerful as people say there is, then I'd rate this universe as a pretty feeble effort. The fact that anyone could think this is the best possible creation makes me think they have no imagination whatsoever. I made a thread before about why my imagination seems to be more powerful than God's creative potential. If that is indeed the case, he's unbelievably cruel for giving it to me while also being too pathetic to make anything better than this toxic vacuum.
Of course, once you drop the God nonsense, the universe is amazing. Its natural beauty is astounding. The idea that someone farted it all out robs it of all meaning to me.
I guess we just don't understand perfection Rob.
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