RE: When Atheists Can't Think Episode 1: No Evidence for God?
December 24, 2015 at 1:43 am
(This post was last modified: December 24, 2015 at 1:50 am by AAA.)
(December 24, 2015 at 1:17 am)Redbeard The Pink Wrote:(December 23, 2015 at 1:21 pm)AAA Wrote: There is plenty of evidence that points to a designer. Information rich cells and the fine tuned universe are old but good arguments that give the appearance of design. When you first see it, the conclusion should be intelligent cause. Materialistic explanations fall short continuously, which ironically inadvertently ends up making it more likely that the design conclusion is correct. I think there is plenty of evidence from biology that supports a designer.
Nooope.
No designer is needed to explain the complexity of the Universe, and if the complexity of the Universe requires a designer more complex than the Universe itself, then that designer must also be complex enough to require a designer more complex than itself, and that designer must also require a more complex designer...welcome to infinite regression.
If your designer doesn't require a designer more complex than itself, then why should the Universe?
If your designer is the only thing in reality that doesn't require a designer, then that's special pleading.
Check.
Right, the infinite regress leads to something that must be outside of time and without need to be caused. The question is: is it more reasonable that this is an intelligence or unintelligence? I think that it is more reasonable to think it is an intelligence. Nobody wins in the infinite regress, but I think the naturalists/atheists are in a slightly worse position.
(December 24, 2015 at 12:55 am)Kitan Wrote: For one who just ranted about presuppositions, you certainly are quite unaware of that which takes place within the Christian mythology. After all, religion has built its church walls based on false realities.
Being a Christian and believing in evolution based on an imaginary sky daddy being behind the workings of evolution is quite a retarded apologetic stepping stone, I do agree.
For one who cannot accept reality as it is certainly has no problems accepting mythology as factual. (I was responding in reference to how you posted, and you obviously repeated yourself, triple A)
There is nothing intelligent about any design based on a primitive mind's concept of human origin.
I know that I have presuppositions, we all do. You can't get away from them no matter how hard you try. You look at the cell with your presuppositions and see areas that you think aren't perfect. I look at the cell with my presuppositions and see impressive complexity and teamwork between enzymes based solely on their structures giving them specific chemical properties.
And what mythology did I promote as fact?