(December 24, 2015 at 11:35 am)AAA Wrote: You don't win in an infinite regress. Nobody does. Either intelligent force was eternal, or matter was eternal. Neither makes sense, and matter being eternal is no more reasonable than intelligence.
It is a fact of science that matter/energy can neither be created nor destroyed. What part of that makes it unreasonable to assume that the sum of matter and energy in the Universe is constant and eternal? Even if an eternal Universe isn't a reasonable assumption, that doesn't make an eternal intelligence a more reasonable assumption.
Furthermore, now you've set up a false dichotomy. It's also possible that neither matter nor intelligence is eternal, and that the Universe as we know it essentially sprang from nowhere due to some natural event, without any guidance or help from magic. I know of no evidence to suggest otherwise, except the cultural opinions of ancient peoples (which generally only qualify as claims rather than actual evidence).
The chaos and complexity of our Universe is exactly what we'd expect to see if this much matter and energy were whizzing through such a vast space and interacting according to consistent laws over a vast expanse of time with nobody to govern it. There is nothing about the Universe that requires a designer, and "I don't know" is always a better answer than "I don't have any evidence, but claim to know anyway."
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com