(January 24, 2011 at 11:07 pm)dqualk Wrote: I disagree. Also, in my belief God is an infinite being, and therefore we wil be eternally learning and experiencing Him with each other. Sieze the day!
If you beleive in a god that is infinite, then he does not exist. Actual infinities cannot be instatntiated (see Hilberts Hotel). You may want to re-assess your belief, if you really believe this. Theists get round this by using terms like maximal etc. Which means "really, really, really etc big/great [fill the blanks in here]"; but it is just a form of weasel words to save the god concept. In other words meaningless.
This leaves it hards for theists and atheists alike to prove or disprove god; because there is no definitive definition of what a god really is, which omnis they possess, changeless or not, timeless or not, loving or not, caring or not, merciful or not, judgemental or not, communicative or not...the list goes on. Its all too wooly and I'm afraid theists have the burden to define then prove as atheists do not make the claim.
(January 24, 2011 at 11:07 pm)dqualk Wrote: Well put. I like the natural morality. I believe in a natural morality as well, but I also believe that they are based on objective principles. That is I believe that in some situations what is right and wrong is at least in part subjective. So what is right for one is not necessarily what is right for another in every situation, but this is the case in some situations. I am an ethical naturalist.
This is an unfounded belief. Objective morality cannot be arrived at evidentially nor logically. Why would you believe in such a concept, if it wasn't becuase you wanted to?
"I still say a church steeple with a lightning rod on top shows a lack of confidence"...Doug McLeod.
