(December 28, 2015 at 6:16 pm)Delicate Wrote:(December 28, 2015 at 5:38 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: Ok so I believe in things that can be proven, you believe in things that can't, but to you my way of sorting reality from crap by demanding evidence or proof is somehow wrong. You do know that in the whole of history there has only ever been one way to separate what we assume to be true from reality, one way and only one way to distinguish between how we would like things to be and how they really are and that method is science. If things cannot be tested by the scientific method than you have no way to determine whether they are a real thing or not. Now add to that that I think that the idea of a god is really really stupid, begging so many questions and not providing anything of value to any part of how we view reality. Now imagine that and there are millions of people who not only believe things that can't be shown to exist but these same beliefs are actively retarding progress both scientifically and socially.You believe in plenty of things you can't prove.
Some sensible questions about god coming up.
1: What is god made of
2: what does it look like
3: What was the process it used to bring reality into being.
4: Where did it get the materials.
5: Explain how a being who can apparently exist without any dimensions including time can be said to exist.
Those will do for a start.
Can I explain why I believe what? that part of your post was just hanging at the end with no real explanation.
You believe your experience of the external world is not an illusion of your mind.
Yes, no one (aside from genuinely disturbed people) act as though solipsism is true. And no, as per Plantinga, we can't rationally demonstrate that solipsism isn't true -- it's simply a basic belief. Please connect the dots for me. How is belief in a god "basic" in the same sense as a belief in an actual external reality? I've mentioned this little nugget of apologetic irrationality before (whether in this or another of your threads -- not sure now) and never heard anything more on the subject.
