RE: When Atheists Can't Think Episode 1: No Evidence for God?
December 28, 2015 at 8:33 pm
(This post was last modified: December 28, 2015 at 9:55 pm by Simon Moon.)
(December 28, 2015 at 6:32 pm)Delicate Wrote:(December 28, 2015 at 6:24 pm)Crossless1 Wrote: Yes, no one (aside from genuinely disturbed people) act as though solipsism is true. And no, as per Plantinga, we can't rationally demonstrate that solipsism isn't true -- it's simply a basic belief. Please connect the dots for me. How is belief in a god "basic" in the same sense as a belief in an actual external reality? I've mentioned this little nugget of apologetic irrationality before (whether in this or another of your threads -- not sure now) and never heard anything more on the subject.So you admit not everything you believe is provable. That refutes downbeatplumb's claim.
As to whether belief in God is basic, that's a good question but immaterial to this particular conversation.
So far my point is just that not all we believe is provable.
That is why the strength of one's beliefs should be proportional to the strength of the evidence.
ALL the beliefs I hold, I do so tentatively. I am not absolutely certain about any of my beliefs, but some of my beliefs are extremely close to certain.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.